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OccultHawk 04-15-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052291)
Yeah, I get that. I want to know if we know our actual orientation in the universe.

Relative to what? God? Ffs

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 02:31 PM

Hey, meanwhile I'll be the internet space nerd. I looked it up: indeed, if the universe's curvature is positive, you end up where you started, but current measurements seem to indicate that it's actually flat

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2052303)
Relative to what? God? Ffs

Relative to the extents of the universe? I know its expanding but it's believed to still have an outer limit, no?

If you put a bunch of **** in a balloon and inflate it all the objects inside have some xyz position relative to the centroid of the expanding object.

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 02:50 PM

True, but as long as we haven't found any border of our universe we can't define a center so we don't know
funny related thing: the universe expands uniformly, in such a way that you can choose any point (for instance the earth) to be the center of the expansion.
For all physically relevant purposes it doesn't really matter what the earth's location with respect to the extents of the universe is

The Batlord 04-15-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mariemarie (Post 2052309)
true, butvas long as we haven't found any border of our universe we can't define a center so we don't know
funny related thing: The universe expands uniformly, in such a way that you can choose any point (for instance the earth) to be the center of the expansion.
For all physically relevant purposes it doesn't really matter what the earth's location with respect to the extents of the universe is

*B:TVS i

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 02:57 PM

Thanks. I wasnt sure if there was some weird space physics that could actually help us figure out our orientation similar to how gravity and pressure can help us navigate to the surface in water.

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2052314)
*B:TVS i

**** that was quick, nice one

The Batlord 04-15-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052317)
Thanks. I wasnt sure if there was some weird space physics that could actually help us figure out our orientation similar to how gravity and pressure can help us navigate to the surface in water.

I'm pretty sure Earth and space have the same physics but I guess you already think that math does what it wants.

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:04 PM

Yeah, and youre aware of it all huh? I'm not... I guess when you dont know much about math the dunning kruger kicks in hard.

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Originally Posted by MarieMarie (Post 2052321)
**** that was quick, nice one

He has nothing better to do.. ever..

The Batlord 04-15-2019 03:11 PM

I don't need a theoretical physics degree to assume that math is math.

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2052322)
I'm pretty sure Earth and space have the same physics but I guess you already think that math does what it wants.

Actually his question wasn't a silly one

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052323)
He has nothing better to do.. ever..

Well I'm glad he chooses to do this, it's amusing

Frownland 04-15-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2052326)
math is math.

Hmm interesting theorem.

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2052326)
I don't need a theoretical physics degree to assume that math is math.

I dont need a degree to know that assumptions arent a reliable path to truth.. getting schooled by an autist must feel bad.

OccultHawk 04-15-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052317)
Thanks. I wasnt sure if there was some weird space physics that could actually help us figure out our orientation similar to how gravity and pressure can help us navigate to the surface in water.



Quote:

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052323)
Yeah, and youre aware of it all huh? I'm not... I guess when you dont know much about math the dunning kruger kicks in hard.



He has nothing better to do.. ever..

Good grief.

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:21 PM

Ahh the other guy joins in... are you upset because my question made sense to other people and you saying FFS made you look dumb?

OccultHawk 04-15-2019 03:23 PM

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Actually his question wasn't a silly one
But it’s so predictable he’ll only accept an answer from someone he likes

and Bat is right

space physics?

and then the audacity to be snarky about it

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052330)
I dont need a degree to know that assumptions arent a reliable path to truth.. getting schooled by an autist must feel bad.

Well that wasn't really an assumption. That math is math is like the definition of math.
Math is math
haters gonna hate
and it's my free will that you people be sweet to each other now

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2052333)
But it’s so predictable he’ll only accept an answer from someone he likes

and Bat is right

space physics?

and then the audacity to be snarky about it

the space physics was just clumsy phrasing omg

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:25 PM

Yes, space physics.. as in the effects of black holes and other crazy space **** that no one on this forum can comprehend and how it may inform us about our orientation. What should I call it to help you understand?

OccultHawk 04-15-2019 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052332)
Ahh the other guy joins in... are you upset because my question made sense to other people and you saying FFS made you look dumb?

I told you you needed a relative point of reference straight off, Space Physics.

Marie Monday 04-15-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2052337)
I told you you needed a relative point of reference straight off, Space Physics.

I do see new user name potential in this

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2052337)
I told you you needed a relative point of reference straight off, Space Physics.

I guess it wasnt obvious when I said the point of origin/centroid of the universe is my reference. Sorry for the confusion, ill use capslock next time.

OccultHawk 04-15-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052336)
Yes, space physics.. as in the effects of black holes and other crazy space **** that no one on this forum can comprehend and how it may clue us in on our orientation. What should I call it to help you understand?

Keep stretching- you’ll get there - just keep walking in the same direction forever minus 3

Turn left at the black hole 100 billion light years outside of the observable universe and you’ll actually still be going straight and look for the sign that says all things relative to here

Frownland 04-15-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2052337)
I told you you needed a relative point of reference straight off, Space Physics.

I gotta say that your childish grudge against DWV is not very mindful.

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:35 PM

So if I purposely look for answers from others and ignore his will that be textbook baiting and get me infractions? :X

Cause this **** is too hilarious not to do again.

Frownland 04-15-2019 03:35 PM


DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:37 PM

I should report him since hes a tattler now.

WWWP! EXO! :pssst:

OccultHawk 04-15-2019 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052344)
I should report him since hes a tattler now.

WWWP! EXO! :pssst:

Do you think they’re at the “centroid” of the forum?

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:44 PM

If they were, would you be able to find them?

The Batlord 04-15-2019 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 2052336)
Yes, space physics.. as in the effects of black holes and other crazy space **** that no one on this forum can comprehend and how it may inform us about our orientation. What should I call it to help you understand?

What part of the atmosphere does space physics become planet physics?

Frownland 04-15-2019 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg (Post 2052348)
What part of the atmosphere does space physics become planet physics?

When the acceleration of gravity changes.

DwnWthVwls 04-15-2019 03:53 PM

At the centroid obviously

The Batlord 04-15-2019 03:54 PM

Centrists and their centroids.

OccultHawk 04-16-2019 03:56 PM

Myth busting my ass

That was some seriously corny woo peddling snake oil bull****

Meditation doesn’t have quick and easy results / at least not for most people


and it doesn’t always reduce stress / sometimes it causes stress

Frownland 04-16-2019 03:58 PM

Woo on cable news? That's a new development.

The Batlord 04-16-2019 04:11 PM

I'd like to think there are a number of Shaolin monks being held back offstage bout to whup some yuppie ass.

grindy 04-16-2019 11:33 PM

Meanwhile I'm a bit disappointed that Maria didn't outright remember that measurements seem to indicate a flat universe.

Marie Monday 04-17-2019 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 2052524)
Meanwhile I'm a bit disappointed that Maria didn't outright remember that measurements seem to indicate a flat universe.

yeah, me too! In my defence, I'm not an astrologist :)

Edit: *astrologer?
Second edit: astronomer for **** s sake

OccultHawk 04-18-2019 06:46 AM

https://books.google.com.au/books?id...epage&q&f=true

Norbert Wiener

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener

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Wiener always shared his theories and findings with other researchers, and credited the contributions of others. These included Soviet researchers and their findings. Wiener's acquaintance with them caused him to be regarded with suspicion during the Cold War. He was a strong advocate of automation to improve the standard of living, and to end economic underdevelopment. His ideas became influential in India, whose government he advised during the 1950s.

After the war, Wiener became increasingly concerned with what he believed was political interference with scientific research, and the militarization of science. His article "A Scientist Rebels" from the January 1947 issue of The Atlantic Monthly[19] urged scientists to consider the ethical implications of their work. After the war, he refused to accept any government funding or to work on military projects
The link above is to A Scientist Rebels

Oriphiel 04-18-2019 09:55 AM

Sounds like Wiener had a long, hard life


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