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OccultHawk 07-21-2018 06:31 PM

Medical Cannabis: What Good Can It Do?
 
I want y’all’s opinion on what weed is really good for and what claims are just pseudoscience or complete bull****

The Batlord 07-21-2018 06:37 PM

I just wanna get high and anyone who wants to impede that can eat a dick.

OccultHawk 07-21-2018 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1978558)
I just wanna get high and anyone who wants to impede that can eat a dick.

Yeah

Me too

But my muscles were going crazy after work. I got high and it’s gone. So I read that it’s a powerful anti-inflammation drugs

OccultHawk 07-21-2018 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1978559)

For what?

Frownland 07-21-2018 06:48 PM

It's really good for nausea.

The Batlord 07-21-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1978562)
It's really good for nausea.

It's best for people who hate people who use "nauseated" incorrectly. The most important use tbh.

Batman 07-22-2018 02:31 AM

I'll do you one better-


What bad can it do?

Justthefacts 07-22-2018 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Batman (Post 1978604)
I'll do you one better-


What bad can it do?

Cause a car accident perhaps.

Oriphiel 07-22-2018 03:58 AM

I've heard it can make you shitpost about Jaws all night.

Cuthbert 07-22-2018 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1978558)
I just wanna get high and anyone who wants to impede that can eat a dick.

Agree. Well not for me but for other people.
Much safer than alcohol so let people get high.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 07-22-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts (Post 1978606)
Cause a car accident perhaps.

this is weird coming from a guy fresh off a DUI

DwnWthVwls 07-22-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1978562)
It's really good for nausea.

I've smoked plenty of times when I felt sick to my stomach and it never helped. I should do some research on this because you hear it a lot. Got any articles?

Frownland 07-22-2018 01:11 PM

All anecdotal, it was just the only way that came to mind as far as how I use marijuana medically. That morning bowl usually takes care of nausea from drinking if I have any. I haven't found any research and nothing substantial came up on the first page of google. It's most likely linked to the overall relaxation that you get from it (something that you can get from smoking anything that isn't super harmful), though I'm not sure.

If you find anything good on it let me know.

The Batlord 07-22-2018 01:16 PM

It's helped me in the past.

DwnWthVwls 07-22-2018 02:42 PM

I'm having trouble finding studies also.

I found these so far, but I don't have access to the full articles and I'm not paying...

https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...330?via%3Dihub
https://academic.oup.com/ibdjournal/...dFrom=fulltext

DwnWthVwls 07-22-2018 02:45 PM

https://www.researchgate.net/profile...-the-risks.pdf - Free Download

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Chemotherapy-induced nausea and vomiting.
Up to 80% of patients who receive chemotherapy
experience CINV, which occurs
from 24 hours to 7 days after receiving such
therapy.26 CINV negatively influences a
patient’s QOL and may impact the decision
to continue with chemotherapy. Use of MM
can help to diminish vomiting by binding to
central CB1 receptors and averting the proemetic
effects of dopamine and serotonin.
alone. All active treatments reduced nausea
compared with placebo; there was no difference
between active treatment groups. This
study was limited by low enrollment.
Tramèr et al28 conducted a systematic
review of 30 randomized comparisons
of MM with placebo or antiemetics. The
reviewed studies were completed between
1975 to 1997 and analyzed a total of 1,366
patients. Nabilone was evaluated in 16 trials;
dronabinol was utilized in 13 trials; and IM
levonantradol, a synthetic cannabinoid analog
of dronabinol, was used in 1 trial. These
agents were found to be more effective as
an antiemetic compared with prochlorperazine,
metoclopramide, chlorpromazine,
thiethylperazine,
haloperidol, domperidone,
or alizapride. In addition, 38% to 90% of
patients in these studies preferred MM over
the traditional antiemetics.
A Cochrane review29 suggested that
MM may be a viable option for treatmentresistant
CINV; however, further studies are
needed because current studies have methodological
limitations.

Key 07-23-2018 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1978744)
All anecdotal, it was just the only way that came to mind as far as how I use marijuana medically. That morning bowl usually takes care of nausea from drinking if I have any. I haven't found any research and nothing substantial came up on the first page of google. It's most likely linked to the overall relaxation that you get from it (something that you can get from smoking anything that isn't super harmful), though I'm not sure.

If you find anything good on it let me know.

Helps my nausea as well.

Frownland 07-25-2018 05:59 PM

x2

Key 07-25-2018 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1980316)
I'm just gonna drop that weed is overrated boom

Who cares? That doesn't take away from the enjoyment. I guess its different since it's legal here. Only reason I'm saying that is because I know it pissed Bat off. And it'd his birthday so I wanna piss him off.

OccultHawk 07-25-2018 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1980316)
I'm just gonna drop that weed is overrated boom

It’s not though

I enjoy things a lot more with a mellow buzz on and it’s easy as **** on the body compared to any other drug

It puts a great spin on **** and when it wears off it just goes away

And when you need to quit like for a job or whatever it’s easy to quit

Key 07-25-2018 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1980326)
It’s not though

I enjoy things a lot more with a mellow buzz on and it’s easy as **** on the body compared to any other drug

It puts a great spin on **** and when it wears off it just goes away

And when you need to quit like for a job or whatever it’s easy to quit

I can safely say that I'm far more addicted to cigs than I am with weed. I just enjoy weed way more.

Frownland 07-25-2018 07:51 PM

Things can be nice and overrated at the same time.

Key 07-25-2018 08:03 PM

But it's not overrated lol. And if so, explain how.

The Batlord 07-25-2018 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1980326)
It’s not though

I enjoy things a lot more with a mellow buzz on and it’s easy as **** on the body compared to any other drug

It puts a great spin on **** and when it wears off it just goes away

And when you need to quit like for a job or whatever it’s easy to quit

Same. It might not be as mindblowing as the first time I tried it but I'm not really looking to go hard with drugs, just pass the time.

Frownland 07-25-2018 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1980334)
But it's not overrated lol. And if so, explain how.

People acting like smoking herb makes them cool when everyone does it. It's pretty cool ****, I smoke it every day, but it's riding one hell of a hype train in the modern day. To bring it back to the OP, the way that people hype marijuana as a cure for everything mostly based off of regression to the mean gives it a higher status than it lives up to. It does have some medicinal uses but not being cautious kind of hurts your side tbh. Speaking of sides, John Boehner is lobbying for Acreage Holdings, a marijuana investment firm. The corporatization of marijuana is a sign of its overrating imo.

I bet elph can only get schwag for $20 bucks a gram btw.

Key 07-25-2018 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980391)
People acting like smoking herb makes them cool when everyone does it. It's pretty cool ****, I smoke it every day, but it's riding one hell of a hype train in the modern day. To bring it back to the OP, the way that people hype marijuana as a cure for everything mostly based off of regression to the mean gives it a higher status than it lives up to. It does have some medicinal uses but not being cautious kind of hurts your side tbh. Speaking of sides, John Boehner is lobbying for Acreage Holdings, a marijuana investment firm. The corporatization of marijuana is a sign of its overrating imo.

I bet elph can only get schwag for $20 bucks a gram btw.

I can understand what you mean, definitely. But you can't deny how awesome it is that it's becoming a more welcome thing and not so frowned upon these days. Especially since people are starting to realize what good it can do.

Frownland 07-25-2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980331)
Things can be nice and overrated at the same time.

^

Key 07-25-2018 11:01 PM

Fair enough. That was certainly a good point and I didn't realize it when I read it the first time.

OccultHawk 07-26-2018 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980391)
People acting like smoking herb makes them cool when everyone does it. It's pretty cool ****, I smoke it every day, but it's riding one hell of a hype train in the modern day. To bring it back to the OP, the way that people hype marijuana as a cure for everything mostly based off of regression to the mean gives it a higher status than it lives up to. It does have some medicinal uses but not being cautious kind of hurts your side tbh. Speaking of sides, John Boehner is lobbying for Acreage Holdings, a marijuana investment firm. The corporatization of marijuana is a sign of its overrating imo.

I bet elph can only get schwag for $20 bucks a gram btw.

Good post.

The Batlord 07-26-2018 05:56 AM

Just admit you want it legalized so you can get high in your living room and eat a whole pizza. Makes you sound less like a crackpot.

Cuthbert 07-26-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1980334)
But it's not overrated lol. And if so, explain how.

People think it's great and smells like delicious Italian food but it stinks of shit and just makes you either tired or anxious.

A lot of weed smokers are way more annoying and 'look at me' than vapers get accused of being as well.

I don't have anything against weed though it's just not for me.

Frownland 07-26-2018 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1980646)
People think it's great and smells like delicious Italian food but it stinks of shit and just makes you either tired or anxious.

I think that it smells pretty nice fresh. Hanging out in a room full of any smoke is lame tbh.

Cuthbert 07-26-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980649)
I think that it smells pretty nice fresh. Hanging out in a room full of any smoke is lame tbh.

I don't actually mind it in a room. When I go snooker hall guys smoke it in there, I'd rather they didn't but I don't mind the smell too much but when someone who has been smoking it walks past you or you speak to them it does smell very bad on them. It's like pungent and dirty and you can smell the tar mixed in.

Key 07-26-2018 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fluff (Post 1980646)
People think it's great and smells like delicious Italian food but it stinks of shit and just makes you either tired or anxious.

A lot of weed smokers are way more annoying and 'look at me' than vapers get accused of being as well.

I don't have anything against weed though it's just not for me.

It being not for you doesn't make it overrated. Also I've never heard it described as delicious Italian food. I also use it to help my anxiety. Different strokes.

Frownland 07-26-2018 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1980738)
It being not for you doesn't make it overrated.

Ffs Kiiii can you learn how to read? I am 100% serious.

Key 07-26-2018 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980740)
Ffs Kiiii can you learn how to read? I am 100% serious.

He was responding to my pointing out that it isn't overrated so naturally I assume he's responding to argue that. I can read just fine.

Frownland 07-26-2018 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1980743)
He was responding to my pointing out that it isn't overrated so naturally I assume he's responding to argue that. I can read just fine.

You should have a tutor read the first half of his sentence to you.

Key 07-26-2018 08:29 PM

I read it. My response is still valid. Thanks for playing though.

Frownland 07-26-2018 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1980745)
I read it. My response is still valid. Thanks for playing though.

That was far from the crux of the point. He just disclosed that he didn't smoke it but was fine with it because people misinterpret thinking that herb is overrated as having something against it, just like how you misinterpret anything that sets off your kneejerk about politics or pot or some vapid non-argument.

Key 07-26-2018 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1980748)
It's because people misinterpret thinking that herb is overrated as having something against it, just like how you misinterpret anything that sets off your kneejerk about politics or pot or some vapid non-argument.

I never said he had anything against it. He said it wasn't for him. That's not a reason for it to be overrated.

But I can tell you're trolling as usual so that's all I'll say.


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