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View Poll Results: What are the odds that Russia has something on DJT?
80-100% Almost certain 9 39.13%
60-80% Sure does look that way sometimes 4 17.39%
40-60% Still on the fence 0 0%
20-40% Leaning towards no 2 8.70%
0-20% Extremely unlikely 8 34.78%
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Old 07-20-2018, 02:41 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Did you see her press conference earlier today where tried to clarify that she misspoke during her wedding vows?

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Trying to turn Melania into a political figure is a seriously concerning move for the Trump administration. It reeks of quasi-monarchy which could easily lead to fasc...oh wait I forgot that we always gave the first lady an unreasonable amount of attention.
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Old 07-20-2018, 03:34 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Trying to turn Melania into a political figure is a seriously concerning move for the Trump administration. It reeks of quasi-monarchy which could easily lead to fasc...oh wait I forgot that we always gave the first lady an unreasonable amount of attention.
"Queen Melania" isn't bad tbh.
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Old 07-21-2018, 08:24 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Trying to turn Melania into a political figure is a seriously concerning move for the Trump administration. It reeks of quasi-monarchy which could easily lead to fasc...oh wait I forgot that we always gave the first lady an unreasonable amount of attention.
^ I quite like the special role that American First Ladies play, and the old-fashioned courtesy with which they are usually treated by the media. Is Melania being treated so differently from previous incumbants?
IMO, with Trump the worry quasi-monarchy bit has been the handing out positions of power to King Trump's children, irrespective of their experience or aptitude. That's a significant shift from meritocracy to nepotism, which is def a characteristic of dictatorships.

Ivanka Trump, official title: Advisor to President:-

Spoiler for historical precedents:
Over the years, more than a dozen children have worked for presidential fathers. Most have been low-level secretaries, or in some cases campaign operatives, said presidential historian Joshua Kendall, author of First Dads: Parenting And Politics From George Washington to Barack Obama.

Ivanka Trump is unique in that she is a woman with high-level influence.


Jared Trump, official title: Senior Advisor:-

Spoiler for Jared's initial job description:
Mr. Kushner arrived in the White House with an expansive portfolio. In addition to Middle East peace, he served as the president’s intermediary with Mexico, China and the Arab world.
At a senior staff meeting early in President Trump’s tenure, Reince Priebus, then the White House chief of staff, posed a simple question to Jared Kushner: What would his newly created Office of American Innovation do?

Mr. Kushner brushed him off, according to people privy to the exchange. Given that he and his top lieutenants were paid little or nothing, Mr. Kushner asked, “What do you care?” He emphasized his point with an expletive.

“O.K.,” Mr. Priebus replied. “You do whatever you want.”
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I was being ironic. She's being treated similar to past first ladies. I do genuinely think its a silly tradition though.
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At least I registered the irony of your "leads to fasc..." comment, though quite often your irony sails straight over my head, I'm afraid.

Yes, all that stuff about "What will the first lady wear?" is pretty silly of course but sometimes it provides a bit of light relief, or a heartwarming story to sweeten the pill that the end of civilization is nigh.

An ironical observation about the beginnings of fascism:-

Surely the first tell-tale sign is when a political party design a mock-military uniform for themselves - the Brownshirts, the Blackshirts, etc. We'll know that fascism has infiltrated MB when the mods all post avatars of themselves as Blueshirts.
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Surely the first tell-tale sign is when a political party design a mock-military uniform for themselves - the Brownshirts, the Blackshirts, etc. We'll know that fascism has infiltrated MB when the mods all post avatars of themselves as Blueshirts.
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This Trump vs. Cohen thing is heating up very quickly. Imagine you have a long time lawyer and "fixer" who ends up on the hot seat and decides he's not going to take a fall for his ex-client. The **** Cohen must know and can testify to....

Trump's already trying to spin that Cohen taping him was illegal.

Not according to the America Bar Association:

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The American Bar Association’s Committee on Ethics and Professional Responsibility recently reversed long-standing precedent and held that lawyers may ethically tape their conversations, with some caveats. ABA Formal Opinion 01-422, issued with little fanfare on the eve of the ABA Annual Meeting in Chicago in early August, held that the Model Rules do not proscribe a lawyer from taping his own conversations, provided the taping is not illegal in the relevant jurisdictions and the lawyer does not lie about whether the conversation is being taped, if asked about it.
Checked and it's completely legal in New York, where I assume the taping took place.
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