Official Mental Health Thread

Zhanteimi · 06-26-2019, 07:52 AM

Nah. I've faced my pain. I took a decade, but I did it. You know nothing about the details of my life, fool. I faced my pain, and my wife helped me through her indefatigable, undefeatable love. But even before that, I never had a problem getting out of bed.

Zhanteimi · 06-26-2019, 08:10 AM

Quick follow up thought: I wonder if people who succeed are destined to succeed, and those who fail are destined to fail, PTSD (abuse etc) or not. Like, if you're abused, there are going to be effects, and it seems that people go one of two ways: narcissistic psychopathy (me) or depression (my friend, for example). One is the road to "success", even if it's through people, and the other is the road to "failure" because he can't get out of bed.

Again, just continuing to puzzle this out in my asshole-ish way.

*success and failure are being defined here as having money, job, stability, all that...able to take responsibilities

**Frownland** · 06-26-2019, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

I just don't get why people are depressed

People are different.

Zhanteimi · 06-26-2019, 08:23 AM

Yeah, I'm figuring that out.

OccultHawk · 06-26-2019, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

Nah. I've faced my pain. I took a decade, but I did it. You know nothing about the details of my life, fool. I faced my pain, and my wife helped me through her indefatigable, undefeatable love. But even before that, I never had a problem getting out of bed.

I know you’re raising (or raised) a white family in Japan. I’m not going to go any more into that but you have to understand that while you’re throwing your stones I know what you decided to sacrifice and why. You know what I’m talking about.

Key · 06-26-2019, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi

I'm not trying to gatekeep suffering. I just don't get why people are depressed. My honest reaction is, "Fuck you! Get off your ass! We've all got problems!"

I never say that, but that's what I feel. It's just my natural reaction. I was horribly abused (physically and sexually) as a child, but I still did well in school and made something of myself. I never once lay in bed and felt sorry for myself or wallowed in lack of desire to do anything. I just don't get it.

Shit needs to get done. Motherfucker, get up and do it!

Again, I could be going about this all wrong, but this is my experience and my feelings.

Sorry, just rambling here...you (a person, not anyone specific here) lie in bed in your depression because you have the luxury to do so. You get food. You have shelter. You wish you're dead? Bullshit. Have someone start firing a gun at you, and you'll be weeping for your life to be spared.

You're right in that you have no idea what depression is like or what it's like for people that deal with it on a daily basis. Mostly because you share the same opinion of other people that dont understand it.

Zhanteimi · 06-26-2019, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Key

Mostly because you share the same opinion of other people that dont understand it.

Yep. I don't get it at all, but I am, in my asshole way, trying to understand what makes some abuse victims go the depression route and some go the psychopath route. (Other than, "because people are different.")

**Frownland** · 06-26-2019, 09:07 AM

They have different brain chemistries. It's really that simple.

Key · 06-26-2019, 09:09 AM

^basically that

**Frownland** · 06-26-2019, 09:14 AM

High intelligence: A risk factor for psychological and physiological overexcitabilities

06-26-2019, 07:52 AM	#511 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Nah. I've faced my pain. I took a decade, but I did it. You know nothing about the details of my life, fool. I faced my pain, and my wife helped me through her indefatigable, undefeatable love. But even before that, I never had a problem getting out of bed. __________________ Zhanteimi LetsTalkMusic

06-26-2019, 08:10 AM	#512 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Quick follow up thought: I wonder if people who succeed are destined to succeed, and those who fail are destined to fail, PTSD (abuse etc) or not. Like, if you're abused, there are going to be effects, and it seems that people go one of two ways: narcissistic psychopathy (me) or depression (my friend, for example). One is the road to "success", even if it's through people, and the other is the road to "failure" because he can't get out of bed. Again, just continuing to puzzle this out in my asshole-ish way. success and failure are being defined here as having money, job, stability, all that...able to take responsibilities __________________ Zhanteimi LetsTalkMusic Last edited by Zhanteimi; 06-26-2019 at 08:24 AM.*

06-26-2019, 08:23 AM	#514 (permalink)
Zhanteimi Mord Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Tokyo Posts: 4,873	Yeah, I'm figuring that out. __________________ Zhanteimi LetsTalkMusic

06-26-2019, 09:07 AM	#518 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	They have different brain chemistries. It's really that simple. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-26-2019, 09:14 AM	#520 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	High intelligence: A risk factor for psychological and physiological overexcitabilities __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

06-26-2019, 09:09 AM	#519 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	^basically that