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Old 02-23-2022, 07:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't think you can unless you can somehow get a mental health professional involved.
There's a psychologist I can call. I don't think there's much he can do either, but it's probably my best bet atm.
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Old 02-23-2022, 08:43 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I’m glad he can get to his to his old doctor Exo. I hope it makes a big difference for him and he can get in to recovery. It must have been so scary, I hope you are okay?
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Glad to hear that Ryan is feeling a bit better today, Exo - and that he'll have a really good psychiatrist in his corner again as of tomorrow morning. I'm hoping things continue to stabilize and that life becomes a bit kinder to you and your family very soon. Thinking of all of you.
Thanks for all the thoughts friends.

Ryan got back from his appointment this morning and his doctor is ready to go to his old doctor and strangle him. Old doc basically did nothing to prevent this from happening and hasn't even returned Ryan's call yesterday stating that he suffered a mental break. Old doc sent him for bloodwork and immediately put him on an anti-psychotic for a week to prevent another episode. In the words of his new doc, which coincidentally used to be my old doctor, "You're mine now. Don't worry".

The confidence is relieving to say the least.
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Old 02-23-2022, 09:09 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Exo, I'm sorry to read about your troubles and am glad Ryan is getting help. Has he been on a long term medication treatment earlier?
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Old 03-13-2022, 11:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's been a nightmare of a week as far as Ryan goes. His anti-psychotic meds finished last week and he was okay for a few days. Starting Thursday night, he started to really lose it and woke my parents up at 5am asking them to bring him to the hospital to check out his leg. This is the same leg that he broke 12 years ago and has a metal plate in it. Long story short, it took almost nine hours for him to get "ready" enough to go. He took five showers, had to smoke a joint between each one, then a cigarette, then had to make a phone call to someone after some showers. They finally made it to the hospital and it was a three hour wait. He freaked out and left and made them take him to another hospital.

They finally drove home, Ryan now with a cane, at around 11pm and he got into a fight in the car with my dad and accused him of trying to kill him because he was driving too fast.

I woke up Saturday morning to chaos. My brother had called the police asking for a restraining order against my dad. I decided it was time to get the police involved so I went to the police department and met some of my dads old colleagues (he's former cop in town) and we decided that the best way to do this was to have me drive up first and they follow ten minutes later acting like they came on their won accord responding to Ryan's phone call and that he didn't show up to the department to "file" the report.

We all talked with him trying to get him to go in for a psych eval. He finally agreed to go to the hospital but NOT the psych ward. He was just appeasing us. The cops couldn't get an ambulance to take him, which pissed off the two cops. I volunteered to take him.

That was at 11am. We eventually got into the ER at 5pm because he needed this, needed that, needed to calm down. All the while he was mad at me for one thing and then not mad at the other. I had to use his focal point safe word to calm him down about 200 times. I did it right maybe 100. They other times I was an assh*le for not listening.

Long story short, the hospital couldn't admit him because he wasn't suicidal or homicidal even though he technically threatened to burn down the house. I bought him home and and was pissed at me for making him go through that while also thanking me for doing the right thing even though it was the wrong thing.

I dropped him off and went to bed. My dad stayed in a hotel that night to diffuse the situation.

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The next day my dad came home and Ryan saw him and immediately lost his sh*t. My dad left, went down to the police department, and the same two officers then came up with a plan to try once again to get him into observed care. My dad got a phone call that Ryan was destroying stuff at the house, a lamp and such, and they went up there.

They explained that this was my parents house and that he needed to behave or leave. If he kept breaking things, he'd end up in jail. The cops were actually pretty great through the whole thing. Ryan left and stayed in a hotel last night. My dad stayed another night in a hotel just to give my mom a night of peace, which she really didn't get because Ryan came back at midnight getting more clothes.

He called me and told me that I'm not his brother anymore and that he's not coming to my wedding. I didn't take it personally.

We're in contact with his doctor who prescribed him more anti-psychotic meds. Ryan has them though, and hopefully he's taking them.

That's where we are. Hopefully my dad can stay in the house tonight. Hopefully the meds start to kick in. It's a day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute thing.

I'm exhausted. If you don't notice me around here much in the upcoming days...this is why. I thought I'd give you guys an update. It's pretty f*cked but there are plans in place.
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I'm struggling with other people's mental states. I'm a manager and got some very serious complaints about one of our employees who has a history with being kinda weird. I got told he'd been acting very intense / aggressive with some of his colleagues, so I call him to my office.

So the reason this guy gets so intense is he's big into conspiracy theories and every other alternative belief. I kinda wanted to pick his brain a little to see what was in there, so we talked for more than two hours about how the earth is flat, it's actually underneath this dome with water above it, 9/11 was staged, women are evil and the dying rays of the sun form a triangle with the horizon with all 60 degrees angles. 60 + 60 + 60 = 666 so the sun makes a sign of the devil.

We're all being lied to by the elite. I asked why would they mobilize all these countless resources into fooling us and the simple answer is they're in league with Satan.

So I told the guy he needs to be a little more careful in his interactions with his coworkers. He agreed to that and seemed fine with it. But my biggest concern is actually for his health. I'm pretty sure he suffers from deep set paranoid schizofrenia. His hygiene is pretty bad, I think because he believes chemicals in soap are put there to somehow mess him up. He's also very thin and I asked him about how he eats. He says he eats several eggs every day, so that at least sounds good, although he can't be getting that many calories in him.

I told him I think he should see his doctor and get a checkup. It's obvious something's going on and a doctor would see that. However,
that's not going to happen because people from the medical profession are just part of or under the control of this evil elite. He won't willingly go to a doctor. He has no family to speak of, so no real support network outside of work. He's fairly old and so will go off with a pension soon. If he doesn't receive any help before that, I feel like he's just going to sit alone at home and delve deeper into paranoid rabbit holes.

My own feeling is that he should be comitted to an institution so they can figure out a medication/treatment scheme that will help him, but I'm pretty sure I can't make that call and there's no family to talk to. So how can I help this guy?
That is such a shame for him, how does the healthcare system work in your country? Does your work offer any sort of private healthcare, like a telephone number he could call and speak to a mental health professional? They may then be able to refer him on to something else if he needs extra help.

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Thanks for all the thoughts friends.

Ryan got back from his appointment this morning and his doctor is ready to go to his old doctor and strangle him. Old doc basically did nothing to prevent this from happening and hasn't even returned Ryan's call yesterday stating that he suffered a mental break. Old doc sent him for bloodwork and immediately put him on an anti-psychotic for a week to prevent another episode. In the words of his new doc, which coincidentally used to be my old doctor, "You're mine now. Don't worry".

The confidence is relieving to say the least.
It’s awful you all have to go through this because the other doc done nothing to prevent it but fingers crossed now he’s in the right hands he will be back to himself pretty soon.
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Exo, I'm sorry to read about your troubles and am glad Ryan is getting help. Has he been on a long term medication treatment earlier?
He's been in an out of medical facilities for the last 8 years. He's been on Lithium and a few more medications for a while now but they recently tried to ween him off everything except Lithium and it may have triggered this episode. We just don't know yet. We'll see what his blood test shows.

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I actually saw him yesterday and he was almost there. Very tired and a little cranky but no signs of psychosis. It's getting better every day.
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I mean he kicked drugs right? He's got this.
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I mean he kicked drugs right? He's got this.
Not only did the f*cker kick heroin, but he also passed NJ drug court to avoid prison time for his drug fueled attempted robbery which has a graduation rate of about 10%.
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Sorry to hear, Exo. Why don't they give him enough meds so they don't run out? Does it have to do with the side effects?
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