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grindy 04-13-2018 02:41 PM

Now that's more like it.

Goofle 04-13-2018 09:35 PM

I'm going to type that I am a communist but not a capitol C one.

I'm a commie now.

OccultHawk 04-13-2018 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1941012)
I'm going to type that I am a communist but not a capitol C one.

I'm a commie now.

Welcome to the fold, comrade. We’ve been waiting. We love you.

Goofle 04-14-2018 05:09 AM

Communism isn't a front for unaccountable collective ownership, is it? Because I don't support that comrade.

OccultHawk 04-14-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1941038)
Communism isn't a front for unaccountable collective ownership, is it? Because I don't support that comrade.

Oh no no no

You buy timeshare slots to the intentional living space from elph. We keep everything in tip top shape and our yearly upkeep fees low by hiring illegals to supervise the free labor we get from the local for profit prison.

https://media.tenor.co/images/60c5c1...5ac1d27b08/raw

Goofle 04-14-2018 09:40 AM

You literally couldn't say Libertarian Socialism and define it without an internal contradiction.

Goofle 04-14-2018 10:09 AM

It’s the socialism side that doesn’t work with it. Considering socialism requires force and and a violation of the NAP for anyone who doesn’t want to partake in the distribution of their wealth.

I’m sure there are many forms of Libertarianism that don’t necessitate a contradiction but that does.

OccultHawk 04-14-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1941073)
It’s the socialism side that doesn’t work with it. Considering socialism requires force and and a violation of the NAP for anyone who doesn’t want to partake in the distribution of their wealth.

I’m sure there are many forms of Libertarianism that don’t necessitate a contradiction but that does.

It’s capitalism that’s impossible to align with libertarianism. Capitalism is predicated on the theft of natural resources by assigning the rights of control to people who have documents recognized by the capitalist power structure. Property is theft.

Socialism is, at least, an attempt to correct the inherent injustice of capitalism. Neither system can be truly libertarian but socialism has its sails set in the direction of freedom whereas capitalism is sailing further into the depths tyranny and oppression.

OccultHawk 04-14-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1941077)
not if society voluntarily rejects private property

Native American tribes lived without ownership of land for example

private property requires force as well, I can not own something I am not carrying on me without the gov putting a gun to everyone else's head

Church

OccultHawk 04-14-2018 10:40 AM

The Pueblo Indians lived for at least two centuries in a completely classless and politically non-hierarchical social structure. They didn’t number in the millions but they did number in the thousands.


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