Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It is. Another problem we have is time and setting. Just saying poverty leaves the door open to every civilization that ever had a monetary system. Then inside that we have billions of individuals.

I have a feeling you’re thinking like you did when I took apart your time travel vs space travel question. You’re thinking ffs you know what I mean just work with me here. But I’m thinking feudalism, slavery, victims of famine, failed revolutions, unfair banking practices, capitalism vs communism, IMF debt, IMF bailouts, American slums, modern day India, credit card debt, student loans, expensive health problems, and on and on.

You poopooed the first thing I said as a persnickety point over semantics but I was opening the conversation with a point about how the haves dictate the language we use to justify the exploitation of the poor.

Anyway, if you’re looking for universal patterns, where there’s money you’re very likely to find people who are able to hoard it and others who suffer from being on the other side. It’s also very likely that money is power and power means more money but the degree to which the cards are stacked against the poor vary from situation to situation. A dude in Ireland might have a bad hand but a kid in Ethiopia was probably never even allowed to know there’s such a thing as a hand.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It actually works on my iPhone. I just downloaded a free book and started reading just now.

Originally Posted by grindy

What if you sell the poor timeshares?

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

It really chaps my ass when you look something up and they’ll only give you the abstract.

I’m like really. I’m pretty sure that I’m the only one on earth who just wants to read this. Not for a grade. Not because I’m on the dissertation team. I’m just ****ing interested but you’re going to keep it hidden up your ass instead. **** them.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Jesus Christ, that's weird!
I went to that site, and what was in the search bar? "Forgotten Ancestors". Were you searching for that, Hawk? Cos I wasn't: didn't even know about it. And if so, how come it came up on my browser? Are you hacking me?

Edit: got "Billions and Billions" anyway. Score!

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s probably because Bat made sure it was there before linking.

Ancestors is considerably better, imo. Ancestors is the one I was recommending. I mentioned Billions because I’m just finishing with it.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

That’s probably because Bat made sure it was there before linking.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Duh. What a moron.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Can we talk about famine specifically for a while since that’s about a harsh as it gets?

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Food for thought if nothing else.