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Trollheart 03-16-2018 10:49 AM

The WWII Thread
 
Anyone interested in discussing? I've been fascinated by World War II since I was little. Back then, the only comics you could graduate to after the "funnies" dealt with either soccer or war. I was never much into football, so I ended up reading about Nazis and Tommies and Japs. In recent times, I've gotten into watching more and more documentaries on the war, and it's quite interesting how the view espoused in publications like War Picture Library, Warlord and Battle Picture Weekly were, obviously, heavily slanted in favour of the Allies (though Battle I think it was did a story based on a German hero, Hellmann of Hammer Force - was very good if I remember) and now I get to hear about the other side, to an extent anyway.

So, anyone up for talking about the Second World War, here I am. And I have a question to pose: was it not a superbly naive move of Hitler to declare war on the USA after Pearl Harbor? If he had left the Americans fighting the Japs, would that not have a) kept them out of the war in Europe and b) given him a chance to consolidate his power? Surely D-Day would never have worked without the American involvement? And the British didn't fight, did they, in the Pacific Theatre? Or am I wrong? I don't remember ever hearing that they did. So surely then he made a massive blunder by declaring war on the US?

The Batlord 03-16-2018 11:02 AM

As far as I know not in the Pacific, but in Indochina they certainly did. Of course there's probably a reason those assumedly British comics didn't want to cover that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Campaign

Trollheart 03-16-2018 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1933548)
As far as I know not in the Pacific, but in Indochina they certainly did. Of course there's probably a reason those assumedly British comics didn't want to cover that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayan_Campaign

Oh **** yeah, of course: Burma. I forgot all about that. Gurkhas and all that. Still, if he had just left the Americans to deal with the Japs it should have been a godsend for him.

On another subject: the Aryan ideal? Did Hitler look even slightly Aryan? And Himmler? He looked more like he should be in command of a Japanese battalion or something! ****ing gob****es.

Did you read about the Jewish revenge plot?

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 11:25 AM

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the British didn't fight, did they, in the Pacific Theatre?
When I was living in Japan it was on the news that these old British dudes were burning the Japanese flag. This was like 50 years later and they were still pissed about the horrors they suffered serving in the British Pacific Fleet. A lot of Brits were killed by Japanese kamikaze attacks while giving naval support in the Battle of Okinawa. They blasted the **** out of the underground bunkers the Japanese were hunkered down in.

The Batlord 03-16-2018 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1933555)
Did you read about the Jewish revenge plot?

All of modern history is a Jewish revenge plot.

The Batlord 03-16-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933562)
When I was living in Japan it was on the news that these old British dudes were burning the Japanese flag. This was like 50 years later and they were still pissed about the horrors they suffered serving in the British Pacific Fleet. A lot of Brits were killed by Japanese kamikaze attacks while giving naval support in the Battle of Okinawa. They blasted the **** out of the underground bunkers the Japanese were hunkered down in.

And thankfully Okinawa was such a cakewalk because of it. Bang up job, ya limey ****s!

Oriphiel 03-16-2018 11:28 AM

Lol @ old man TH putting this in the Current Events forum.

Trollheart 03-16-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933562)
When I was living in Japan it was on the news that these old British dudes were burning the Japanese flag. This was like 50 years later and they were still pissed about the horrors they suffered serving in the British Pacific Fleet. A lot of Brits were killed by Japanese kamikaze attacks while giving naval support in the Battle of Okinawa. They blasted the **** out of the underground bunkers the Japanese were hunkered down in.

Yeah I've realised I was wrong there. Still, the Americans outnumbered the Brits out there.
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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1933563)
All of modern history is a Jewish revenge plot.

Yeah but this was a plot to poison German cities. Scary ****.

Trollheart 03-16-2018 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1933565)
Lol @ old man TH putting this in the Current Events forum.

All the political stuff goes here so I guessed this was the best place for it. Anyway, to a vampire like me 1945 is curr - ah, I mean, forgot you heard that.
:shycouch:

Changing the subject completely: your avvy ever going to find what she's looking around for, or what?
:laughing:

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 11:37 AM

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was it not a superbly naive move of Hitler to declare war on the USA after Pearl Harbor?
Hindsight is 20/20 but Japan was a bad ass ally. They controlled Korea, chunks of China, and the fuel and other resources in Southeast Asia. They had also humiliated Russia in the Russo-Japanese War.

Oriphiel 03-16-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933575)
WW2 is the Led Zep of history

Does it give Chula the battle of the bulge when people talk about it?

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933575)
WW2 is the Led Zep of history

Are you going to dare to wet your feet in some conversation about it or just safely throw stones from the sidelines?

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 12:08 PM

Was it the one where Hitler takes mountains of meth? Because that’s all you really need.

The Batlord 03-16-2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933575)
WW2 is the Led Zep of history

You're the Led Zep of punkers.

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933587)
Germany was done pretty ridiculously dirty after WW1

Europeans are dicks

The French were dancing in the streets until round two started up.

Cuthbert 03-16-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933604)
The French were dancing in the streets until round two started up.

http://www.musicbanter.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

grindy 03-16-2018 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933587)
Germany was done pretty ridiculously dirty after WW1

Europeans are dicks

Your post has been reported for racism.
Please refrain from such scandalous comments in the futures.
We will be watching you closely, kiddo.

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933607)
doesn't make much sense

I think what he’s saying is you’re a cliche.

DwnWthVwls 03-16-2018 12:43 PM

Elph isn't punk anymore.. He's a trustfundian rebel without a trustfund.

grindy 03-16-2018 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1933619)
Elph isn't punk anymore.. He's a trustfundian rebel without a trustfund.

Never forget the timeshares.

Trollheart 03-16-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933569)
Hindsight is 20/20 but Japan was a bad ass ally. They controlled Korea, chunks of China, and the fuel and other resources in Southeast Asia. They had also humiliated Russia in the Russo-Japanese War.

That's a very good point. But he could always have declared his support for the Empire later, when it suited him, as he did (in reverse) with Russia and as Italy did, and then undid, as the course of the war changed.
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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933575)
WW2 is the Led Zep of history

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933579)
Are you going to dare to wet your feet in some conversation about it or just safely throw stones from the sidelines?

:clap:
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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1933614)
Your post has been reported for racism.
Please refrain from such scandalous comments in the futures.
We will be watching you closely, kiddo.

The fact that you're German makes this even more chilling.
https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_..._330/image.jpg
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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1933619)
Elph isn't punk anymore.. He's a trustfundian rebel without a trustfund.

Again: :clap:

grindy 03-16-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1933624)
The fact that you're German makes this even more chilling.
https://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_..._330/image.jpg

Again: :clap:

Still not German.
And his post really was reported, although jokingly.

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 01:01 PM

Reported to whom?

Your the mod...

DwnWthVwls 03-16-2018 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1933627)
Still not German.
And his post really was reported, although jokingly.

Reported for dissing Elph with a line I ripped from Sage Francis?

The Batlord 03-16-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1933607)
doesn't make much sense

Imagine that.

Frownland 03-16-2018 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933632)
Reported to whom?

Your the mod...

Reported to the mod team.

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1933635)
Reported for dissing Elph with a line I ripped from Sage Francis?

He=elphenor

Not everything is about you, you know.

grindy 03-16-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 1933632)
Reported to whom?

Your the mod...

I don't think I have a 'the mod', whatever that is.

Trollheart 03-16-2018 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1933627)
Still not German.
And his post really was reported, although jokingly.

Yeah I know, but you're the closest we have. Shrug.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933637)
Reported to the mod team.



He=elphenor

Not everything is about you, you know.

Nearly everything is, though.

DwnWthVwls 03-16-2018 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933637)
Reported to the mod team.



He=elphenor

Not everything is about you, you know.

Well he quoted THs response to me.. I thought each line was a respective response. As in telling TH he was clapping at my post which was reported... :finger:

Frownland 03-16-2018 01:12 PM

I wish I was day drunk right now

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933644)
I wish I was day drunk right now

*were

Frownland 03-16-2018 03:01 PM

Another addition to the fake grammar rule list.

MicShazam 03-16-2018 03:09 PM

I don't make more grammar mistakes than native English speakers. This fact pleases me.

Cuthbert 03-16-2018 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1933678)
I don't make more grammar mistakes than native English speakers. This fact pleases me.

You and all the non natives on here write and speak better English than many of the actual English people I know and went to school with.

It's amazing.

Frownland 03-16-2018 03:15 PM

It weren't none mistake, American grammar is full of arbitrary rules derived from upper class writing conventions developed when there wasn't any kind of standard. See "or less," ending a sentence with a preposition, order of subjects, etc.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 03-16-2018 03:20 PM

this thread sucks infinitely more than nazi germany

MicShazam 03-16-2018 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1933680)
You and all the non natives on here write and speak better English than many of the actual English people I know and went to school with.

It's amazing.

English language media is so omnipresent here that people of my age and younger grow up with the English language in movies, music, texts and especially games (which are almost never translated to Danish). Germany and some other European countries dub movies in their own language, but in Denmark, we fortunately just go with subtitling instead. I ****ing hate dubbing.

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933677)
Another addition to the fake grammar rule list.

Just accept that you got busted bitch

Frownland 03-16-2018 03:33 PM

I theorize that that arbitrary rule was conceived by someone trying to avoid just that.

"Man I wish I were drunk."
"Uh...it's was since you're using the first person singular."
"No! Not when it hasn't happened yet because that person doesn't exist so it's someone else!"
"Yes My Lord." *cowers in fear of being executed*

OccultHawk 03-16-2018 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1933691)
I theorize that that arbitrary rule was conceived by someone trying to avoid just that.

"Man I wish I were drunk."
"Uh...it's was since you're using the first person singular."
"No! Not when it hasn't happened yet because that person doesn't exist so it's someone else!"
"Yes My Lord." *cowers in fear of being executed*

That little story was a cute way to let everyone know you’re smart enough to understand the rule but the truth is you missed it, got caught, and now you’re trying to pull a Chula.


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