a long life (no thanks)
 

This isn’t a suicide thread it’s just a why do people fight so hard thread.

I understand there’s a primal instinct to survive and death is scary but after you’ve done the things you want to do why not just get fat and have a heart attack or get diabetes or whatever?

You ****ed enough bitches. You’ve read a lot of books. You’ve seen countless great concerts. You’ve travelled all over. You enjoyed life when you were young.

What the **** do people want with these old as **** years?

People who work hard as **** their whole lives and then think they’re going to enjoy it at 65...what a bunch of suckers. I’m glad I got mine when the gettin was good.

OK so one of my old friends is now stage 4 and the doctors are like maybe 10 years but you’re a lifer. Chemo for life. How the **** could that possibly be worth it? Even when I see someone like 70 cashiering at the grocery store I think goddamn you must really want to ****ing live. But endless chemo? Then acting like cancer can hear you. Wear a t-shirt that says “**** cancer”. **** “cancer” doesn’t care. Cure my ****ing ass.

I think most people are so pissed they wasted their youth doing some pissant job they can’t accept the end. If you can look back and say you gave it a good run then what are you going to do? Do it again with less feeling like a Who reunion concert? No thank you.

Thanks for reading.

"So much wasted time"
- David Cassidy's last words

https://i.imgur.com/0BU0ncf.jpg

I flew across the US last month to help bring this dude back from the brink.

His wife, of over 50 years, posted this on Thanksgiving:

https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...dd&oe=5A94C55E




Be cool........

I bet deep inside he’s pissed you prolonged his agony.

Goddamn I’d be so pissed. Give an old man his peace.

Be cool.......

That means nothing but ok.

As does your outlook on life.

I rarely post but , hey I will post on this. I personally want to live as long as I can. I enjoy my life. I have been living with / happily married to the true love of my life since I was 18 years old. I am happy. I am happy with my job. I don't plan to work till 65 but if I have to, so be it (because even if you are happy with your job, it still is a job..and not working is always much more fun to me).


Those people you see working at the cash register have different reasons for working there. Some for money. I know I have friends near retirement age who honestly don't know how they will afford to retire or how they will live on their pensions. My parents luckily have retired and will probably never have to worry about money. Are they enjoying retirement? No, to be honest, they are friggin bored. My father pretty much spends his time focused on his diving hobby but is already considering going back to work in some menial job just to work. My mother is considering the same. When you work your whole live and suddenly retire...it can be pretty darned boring to some.

Who are you to judge others about what they choose to do with their lives? If they want to live a few more years, so be it. Focus on your own.

Those two sentences are more depressing than every dark thought I’ve ever had combined. Goddamn, that’s ****ing brutal.

I think there's a saying that youth is wasted on the young.

I spent fifteen years working at the cash register and, yes, it was basically to survive. I ended up giving up when I wasn't getting the payoff for sacrificing my life (something I may have preferred to do, a wife and family- women loved me but not enough to date me, more of a platonic thing basically). I took two cross country trips before I totally hit rock bottom and now my health's gone to pot. Death is something I'm actually looking forward to, especially since I'm seeing a bleaker future for the ones that have to live their entire lives yet.

If I was old, creaky and suffered from all sorts of ills, then sure, just finish me off already. Buy if I could function well enough to be social, read books, listen to music... Just sort of a life in slow motion where nothing too wild happens. I could enjoy that. Friends, relatives, art, food, drink, walks in the park... Maybe even the occasional vacation in another country. Seeing sights. Not too bad, really.

But of course, once you're over the hill, you better have done most of what you wanted to do.

I respect that you at least had the courage to throw your hat in the ring.

You don't have kids do you Hawk? Maybe if you had kids you would have a different opinion.

Hooray for being drugged by hormones into a false sense of meaning.

Is it?

Just saying if I was 50+ with kids and/or grandkids I wouldn't want to die.

I thought this was a cynic-off.

"50+" lol.. just wow. 50 isn't even old, anyone who takes care of themselves and stays active might as welll be 30 when they are 50.

I want to live life as long as I'm enjoying it.. and the latter portion of your sentence never comes true for must people (dare I say all people). Everyone has regrets. Also, diabetes isn't a death sentence or really even that bad in most cases.

The difference there though is that most people come to accept the concept of death as they get older

I don't think that's true.. I don't think age has very much to do with coming to terms with dying. Especially when you bring religious ideology into it, and explore the reasons an individual is prepared or ready for the inevitable reality of the living.

I didn't say it was old.

You really don't have much choice. I mean we're all going to die, so you might as well resign yourself to the fact. It doesn't mean you chuck it all in if you're fortunate to still have your health. I mean Jimmy Carter's 93 and he's still active as Hell.

I don't know what happens when you die. My gut feeling is there is no afterlife either, reincarnation maybe, or even Nietzsche's theory that you're condemned to repeat the same life over and over again, but whatever happens, you're going to lose all memory anyway.

Anyhow, a friend of mine has an old saying. Life sucks then you die. That pretty much sums it all up.

*Nietzsche

I was speaking purely from a view of cynicism but in most cases I've seen personally, the older people I know can talk about the concept of death with no fear or misconception and they still all have alot going for them

Seems easily disproved to me as you would see the same carers happen again from recognisable people who have died within your life time

Unless it was theorised to be restated in an alternate universe similar to the one we already live in

iunno tho m8

Kids are one mistake I never made.

Nietzsche's thought is more about how if time were infinite, everything would happen again at some point and this infinitely many times. He doesn't propose some form of continuity of consciousness.

I hope they make a sitcom where Occulthawk adopts The Batlord, and they both try to out cynic each other in between life lessons.

I'm not sure how I'll feel when I'm old or if I'll even make it that far, but I have a lot of **** that I wanna do. With that said, and I know the OP said that this wasn't a suicide thread, but I think Martin Manley makes a good case for leaving on your own terms while you're still on top of your own ****.

Martin Manley Life and Death - January 1, 2012

Nietzsche just said that it makes sense to live your life as if that were the case. He didn’t actually believe that kind of fairy tale ****.

Read a little neuroscience.

That seems more plausible to me

All neuroscience will tell you is that your brain short circuits when you're near death, thus the white light syndrome. It doesn't say a thing on whether you're greeted by Jesus or Satan or 72 virgins or even if it's just plain black. That's what I mean by we really don't know. Belief and knowledge are two totally different concepts.

That's both adorable and a little frightening for someone who's turning 18 shortly!

x2

There’s no afterlife and there’s no maybe about it. It’s more certain than 2+2=4.

I don't want to live past 27. But that's me I can understand why people would want to live longer. I think having kids doesn't give you a false sense of purpose. I don't think any of us get to choose what another's purpose is like that, I think the individual chooses their own personal purpose and if their kids provide them with a purpose how is that false? In the grand scheme everything is really pointless, but the only reason we really strive to exist is out of love and happiness, that is the only purpose I can see and your children will provide you with love and happiness. Those that have love and happiness, which could come from friends, family, pets, art, lovers, etc. are the ones that want to live. Not all of us seem to have that. With out love and happiness life is so pointless, and at that point there really is no reason to exist.

What about DMT? One could argue that the possible extreme hallucinations caused by that chemical release at death could be some form of an afterlife. At this point, it's arrogant for any living being to act like they completely understand what death is. I mean, an eternity in physical realities known as heaven or hell or purgatory is definitely not true.

Really? The spirit molecule?

You say some arrogant things, my friend, but this surpasses them all. How can you possibly know that for 100%? You don't; nobody does. It's ridiculous to say you do. You may BELIEVE there is no afterlife, but that is not the same as saying that you categorically KNOW there is none. For that you need to have solid, empirical, undeniable proof, and there is no such thing.
Same goes for you. There is nothing you can say DEFINITELY about the afterlife. For all you know, we could be living in the Matrix, or you could die and say "Is this the afterlife?" to which crowds of Higher Beings will chorus "Afterlife? You've been living it, mate!" :laughing:

I only know it with same certainty I know there’s no teapot orbiting Jupiter which is a full 100%.

Why not? Also why 27 and not 28 or 32?

Are you 27 now?

No. You really don't. You might think you do, but you don't. Prove it. You can't. Not about the teapot obviously, that one's true.