Yes. Yes.

I also have conceded that you are right on that particular aspect of jazz despite still respecting what it takes to progress someone else's concepts.

Yeah sure I fight for your stance on that, but I wanna live to at least 80. Imagine the sound of jazz in 60 years?

80 is fine. I respect that.

I don’t respect wanting serious life extension. Once novelty loses its novelty it doesn’t matter what the next thing is.

I get where you're coming from OccultHawk. With the numerous postings about family deaths on here as of late [2 of my own], your timing is fucking impeccable! [/sarcasm]

People want to be alive because it is preferable to the inverse. Who wants to be dead? Not this guy. What good are you dead? [sans the lucrative life insurance policy]

Just wait until transhumanism gets released to the public. The uploading of ones consciousness.

Dig this: The 2045 Initiative

Sick of waiting, I really don't want to do this anymore...

Lucem, is there anyone in real life you can talk to?

Of course we all get dealt a different set of cards, play out our hand differently, blah blah, but I'm sorry to see several posters suggesting that a short life is better than a long one. If life is a card game, we are all playing for what we want; physical and mental wellbeing, a bit of cash and a bit of love. You never know for sure when you're going to turn up a really great card, so, for Lucem F especially, it seems unwise to leave the table so early in the game.

^ I think there's a false premise or something here, Occult. You seem to suggest that reading a lot of books, somehow detracts from the pleasure of reading the next one. I haven't really found that to be the case.

^ Yeah, this is a circumstance that justifies co-operating with death. Someone I love recently decided not to continue chemotherapy because it made her feel so terrible. Instead, she chose to make the best of her remaining months. She was able to face the inevitable with dignity and quiet good grace. Not everyone gets themself a delusional t-shirt, OH.


^ As you get closer to 80, you may find that the number will change. ;) The other evening my friend and I were trading opinions about living to 100.

^ Yep, I'm 100% with this good old common sense. And if I may be allowed to offer a piece of advice to younger members, I'd say: Don't presume that your later years will be less joyful than your youth. After all, when Mick Jagger was asked, in his mid-fifties, about sex, he said, "It just keeps getting better, doesn't it?"

If you have the good fortune to stay healthy and stay optimistic you can continue to have a great life - as per Chula's parents, by the look of them.

*Cue Cat Stevens* : "Look at me, I'm old but I'm happy..."

Great post Lisna :)

^ Hey, thanks, MLM :thumb:
I'm going out for a ride on my bike right now, but a bit later I'll be posting in the Architecture thread, because yes, yes, yes on your latest buildings!

I know I was using the pronoun “you” but I was really only speaking for myself.

Neither of my kids were mapped out. But once they started sucking air my purpose in life was pretty ****ing clear. Be the best damn father I could be.

Spent time with them a couple weeks back. They're all getting grey, slow, and creaky. You might want to think about a Plan B.

+1000

Lucem, keep airing it out here. We're listening.

Joe Biden in 15 years.

I've actually been to the afterlife

Ftfy

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/...ht-study-finds

CRISPR causes significantly greater DNA damage than previously thought, study finds

I'm more interested in the stuff they're looking at with senescent cells, but yeah CRISPR has a ways to go. Gene-editing is like anything else: the first generation tools are going to be crap compared to what's coming later.

In the interest of greatly postponing the effects of aging?

Correct. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

Careful what you wish for.

**** living a long life. Enjoy your time when you're here.

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I don't want to die. Having too much happy happy stuff right now. And ya, kids, woman who is your best friend, mom and dad and stepmom still alive, and hopefully a grand-kid within the next couple of months.

I don't wanna die.

^^ lol meanwhile i distance myself emotionally from everyone i care about and fantasize about how much easier it would be to die than built credit

I think it's time.

A philosopher asks: Is a longer life a happier one? - CNN

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/07/23/hea...ner/index.html

A nice article. I wonder how it would have been written if, via different medical means, people can literally turn back the clock on their cells and go back to whatever age they want? Billions are being invested in those studies right now and a few procedures have reached the point where they are beginning human trials already.

I remember a long time ago getting into some discussion with a roommate about the Elves from Tolkien's universe and how their own conception of time and happiness was touched upon on a few occasions in The Silmarillion and the trilogy itself because they pretty much live forever (all other factors held equal). He thought they'd have been a lot happier in a more modern society than Middle-Earth, but then they'd never leave their houses.

We would need psychiatric drugs that would create a sense of novelty when there is none.

Life is a novelty :laughing:

If I get life-threatening cancer, I'm going to let it run its course. No need to go to all lengths to stay alive.

Didn't you just find out you're gonna have another leach for 18 years? I think you're kinda stuck with being responsible for that.

If I live to 61, I'll be happy. That'll make my youngest 18.

As someone who lost one of their parents at 18. If you think that's good enough you suck.

What could he do if he died?

Idk what youre talking about.

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If he died when his son is 18, how could he do anything about it? You're saying having the outlook he has is bad but he doesn't really have a choice in the matter if it happens.

It's not about choice.

I would rather not die when my youngest turns 18, but if I am going to die at a young point in my kid's life, I hope it's not until she is at least 18.

And you think thats somehow better than if she was 17? I dont understand the arbitrary value youre placing on age. Id expect an answer like when my last one is successful and out on her own. Knowing you did your job as a parent seems like the goal you should be striving for versus "well shes 18 now so i can die comfortably".