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Old 12-05-2017, 06:26 PM   #81 (permalink)
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You guys should read/listen to the Gulag Archipelago. Communism fell out of fashion in the west for a good reason.
No offense but I doubt you know Solzhenitsyn‘s work better than I do.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:27 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Or Tolstoy quite frankly
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:32 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Is Tolstoy a phantom? I thought they assassinated him in Mexico or something. (Oh, wait, that was Trotsky )
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Old 12-06-2017, 01:15 AM   #84 (permalink)
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Curious how the math works out when you calculate percentages across any class or individual. Is a household that brings in 100k a year hoarding 10% without any societal contribution less "bad" than a billionaire hoarding the same 10% with equal contribution?
Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

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Old 12-06-2017, 01:24 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

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Old 12-06-2017, 01:41 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Am I they only one here that things a pure form of any governmental philosophy is flawed and will inevitably fail, but Frankensteining a government that takes pieces from each would work much better?
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Old 12-06-2017, 03:29 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Am I they only one here that things a pure form of any governmental philosophy is flawed and will inevitably fail, but Frankensteining a government that takes pieces from each would work much better?
Nope. A system with a combination of Capitalism and Socialism would probably be the way to go. The problem isn't people trying to make money legitimately, it's the corporations that are pushing out the small businesses.

And to respond to Down's logic, I'm not sure about the math, but you sound a little like Sean Hannity crying why should he be paying more taxes than the poor.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:14 AM   #88 (permalink)
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Dont mind Chula he just takes everything personal when you have a different view point. Also my question was just meant to better understand elphs view. Anyone who decided to make it into something more probably shouldnt waste their time.

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Mind blown. Due you have a ****ing clue how this **** works?

I'm too tired right now but will be back tomorrow.
Dont bother. I dont care to engage with you in any kind of discussion that involves thinking and elph answered the question already.
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Old 12-06-2017, 04:28 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Fair enough. I was paying attention to more your comment than the others. Elph obviously has his own views.
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Dont mind Chula.
Are you seriously trying to equate a family making $150K a year (in any way) with billionaires?

Before the 2014 crash, Linda and I were averaging about $160K a year. We paid the expected taxes, wrote off whatever was legal, and got by.

Unlike billionaires, we couldn't afford high priced tax advisers to help us exploit the system. Didn't own massive amounts of property that we could exploit via the insane depreciation laws. Couldn't ship any of our wealth (we didn't even have wealth) offshore, and had no means to exploit "super rich people" tax loopholes.

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to exploit a business opportunity.
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to use selfishly for one's own ends:
employers who exploit their workers.
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to advance or further through exploitation; promote:
He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances.

Can't believe I once thought you were cool.
Glad you can sleep with "your" point of view.

Stop with the ****ing insults too. I can think just fine. Don't be a dick.
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