Universal Basic Income or Class Warfare

DwnWthVwls · 12-21-2018, 06:26 PM

So? That argument doesnt make their position any less credible. It doesnt address anything.

OccultHawk · 12-21-2018, 06:39 PM

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Notice that those who are bitching that we all need to destitute ourselves in the name of charity are doing exactly as much to end world poverty as those saying the exact opposite . . .

Yes. I pointed that out to Kiiii, in fact.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-21-2018, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

So? That argument doesnt make their position any less credible. It doesnt address anything.

Actually, it does. If the argument were so compelling, those advocating it would be putting it into practice.

It's like how you see rich people pushing us into war, but don't sign up to fight.

OccultHawk · 12-21-2018, 06:44 PM

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Actually, it does. If the argument were so compelling, those advocating it would be putting it into practice.

It's like how you see rich people pushing us into war, but don't sign up to fight.

But the conclusion is that with us as well selfish desires outweigh our altruism. Again and again it’s being acknowledged as a shortcoming.

DwnWthVwls · 12-21-2018, 07:22 PM

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Actually, it does. If the argument were so compelling, those advocating it would be putting it into practice.

It's like how you see rich people pushing us into war, but don't sign up to fight.

That's not how any of this works... you really need to step up your logic game.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-21-2018, 08:09 PM

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That's not how any of this works... you really need to step up your logic game.

Don't I know it, boy scout. But when we're attempting to juggle knives such as Logic, Morality, Ethics, Shaming, Economics, Poverty, War, Altruism and Benevolevence, we have to either be absolutely perfect, or choose which ones we let cut us.

**Frownland** · 12-21-2018, 08:12 PM

Lesson one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

DwnWthVwls · 12-21-2018, 09:06 PM

^See tu quoque...

~~[MERIT]~~ · 12-21-2018, 09:40 PM

How egotistical of us all, to just relent that we're all pieces of shit, and then go on to argue over the metrics of our shittiness, rather than getting up off of our lazy, greedy asses and doing something altruistic or benevolent. Shame on us all.

You have to realize that no matter how much pocket change you donate, no matter if you sell ALL of your material wealth and donate it to charity, you're just feeding it all into a system that will continue to suck dick.

Key · 12-21-2018, 09:44 PM

I wanna appreciate the irony as well that were all arguing this while sitting on our computers and laptops and using the Internet to talk about how we spend our money while simultaneously not doing a single thing about it but sit on our computers and argue about it. Good stuff.

12-21-2018, 08:12 PM	#677 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Lesson one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

12-21-2018, 09:40 PM	#679 (permalink)
~~[MERIT]~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Missouri, USA Posts: 4,814	How egotistical of us all, to just relent that we're all pieces of shit, and then go on to argue over the metrics of our shittiness, rather than getting up off of our lazy, greedy asses and doing something altruistic or benevolent. Shame on us all. You have to realize that no matter how much pocket change you donate, no matter if you sell ALL of your material wealth and donate it to charity, you're just feeding it all into a system that will continue to suck dick.

12-21-2018, 09:44 PM	#680 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	I wanna appreciate the irony as well that were all arguing this while sitting on our computers and laptops and using the Internet to talk about how we spend our money while simultaneously not doing a single thing about it but sit on our computers and argue about it. Good stuff.