Racism (Yeah, that's right: I'm callin' it!)

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-06-2017, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Even with my admittedly pitifully limited experience I'd have to call bull**** on that. Even here in Ireland blacks can be viewed with suspicion, probably not as much as say America or maybe the UK but still, they definitely evoke the most distrust and a sense of "you're not one of us." I think that's true for black people no matter where they are, unless we're talking about countries where they're the majority, such as Africa, the Caribbean etc.

I am not sure about the 'maybe not as much as the UK' suggestion, especially not where I am from. If anything I would think it would be worse in Ireland as there are no black people there. Here there are a lot.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard · 09-06-2017, 10:50 AM

so i had my first computer science course today (it's whack af soo boring thx for asking) and i kept hearing these loud abrupt noises coming from across the class and quickly realized that somebody in the class obviously had tourettes.

so anyway i look over and see that directly across the classroom where the noise happens to be coming from sits a pretty nerdy looking white kid who i just assume must be the one.

like 15-20 minutes later i discover it's actually the middle eastern dude in a ralph lauren jacket sitting in front of him.

tl;dr i think i'm racist towards crackers or society as conditioned me to believe only dorks can have tourettes

Trollheart · 09-06-2017, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

I am not sure about the 'maybe not as much as the UK' suggestion, especially not where I am from. If anything I would think it would be worse in Ireland as there are no black people there. Here there are a lot.

Fair point. I don't live in the UK. But what I see on the telly does seem to point towards black people there getting more harassed than other races, but you're certainly in a better position to confirm or challenge that than I am. I think the point still stands though; along with the Jews, blacks appear to be one of longest-oppressed races, would that be fair?

Either way, when we think of prejudice and racism these days, other than muslims or Islamic countries, we tend to think I believe about black people. There aren't too many threads complaining about the treatment Asians, Kurds or any other race or ethnic group is receiving.

Maybe I'm just looking at it through a lens filtered by decades of watching the news and too many movies (Mississippi Burning!) but that's how it appears to me.

djchameleon · 09-06-2017, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I complain about people pretending to give a **** that don't. It's easy to follow. Because they don't actually further the cause they muddy it up with fake bull****. Often times becoming a detriment to the cause. Like, okay, lets discuss and try to change this ****ty holiday instead of talking about real issues.

Also just because smaller things are happening doesn't mean the real issues arent being talked about. They aren't going to happen overnight so these smaller things are done in the mean time.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I don't do **** other than call out bull**** just as most people, but I don't make up bull**** to call out for the sake of a hero roll. I think that right there, the discussion, rather than narcissistic name calling for a facade, is at least half the battle. And I honestly don't even give enough of a **** to help myself, what makes you think I give enough of a **** to protest or vote? Like, ****, I live in Utah, we honestly don't have most of these racial issues here too often.

Exactly so I really don't get why you feel like you ade above the same people you are calling out. Also, it isn't just about protesting and voting. It is about having conversations with your white peers and calling them out on their bull**** that contributes to these systems overall.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Think about it. I had a hard time understanding why I should identify somebody as a certain gender. Elph calls me a moron, you just tell me to just do it because it's the thing to do, and Chio and Pae break it down and help me understand just a little more. Now who the hell do you think actually gave a ****? The people that put enough thought into it to know what to tell me. Who do you think helped the cause more? The people that actually gave a ****. Maybe it only slightly changed only one person's perception just a little bit, but that one conversation actually added something to help the cause. And me? That's what I've done and have completely given up on because I stopped giving a ****. Got sick of arguing with brick walls that don't give a **** about fixing or helping anything because all they give a **** about is being right and stroking their own cocks for picking side to sheepishly follow.

Those two have more patience to deal with you. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to change their opinion. They are usually stuck in their ways and it doesnt matter what I say when trying to inform them. I just normally agree to disagree and keep it moving. Same thing happens when I get into discussions with Trump supporters.

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Originally Posted by Mord

Black people don't have it any easier or harder than anyone else. Life's a bitch for pretty much everyone.

Thanks for your input as a white man on the black experience and what they go through.

The Batlord · 09-06-2017, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

That was ****ing classic!

Wasn't it Taxman?

Nah, pretty sure it was the guy with the avatar of a screenshot of Pet_Sounds' Billy Joel avatar.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Im going to posion you .

You're gonna wut? Position me? I'm down.

Trollheart · 09-06-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Nah, pretty sure it was the guy with the avatar of a screenshot of Pet_Sounds' Billy Joel avatar.

Oh yeah, right: JosefK.

The Batlord · 09-06-2017, 01:15 PM

That's it. I knew it was a "J" name but I kept thinking JustinJJustin, which I knew wasn't right.

RoxyRollah · 09-06-2017, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

in longest form it'd be "is being"

instead to omit 7 characters (including a space) I left both words to be assumed, which even you managed to do

"your own thoughts and ideas" read like you plagiarized from this weeks edition of the National Enquirer, with a bit of classic "I don't experience it, therefore it doesn't exist"

Say what you want National Enquirer is a good read. Now buzz off.

The Batlord · 09-06-2017, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Say what you want National Enquirer is a good read. Now buzz off.

Good = fun or informative?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-06-2017, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Fair point. I don't live in the UK. But what I see on the telly does seem to point towards black people there getting more harassed than other races, but you're certainly in a better position to confirm or challenge that than I am. I think the point still stands though; along with the Jews, blacks appear to be one of longest-oppressed races, would that be fair?

If there is any group that would be getting harassed then that would more likely be Asians imo.