Racism (Yeah, that's right: I'm callin' it!)

djchameleon · 09-05-2017, 02:09 PM

^ You get to sit back and complain that so and so isn't doing enough for your liking but you aren't doing a damn thing yourself to attack systemic issues. You are just complaining about people that don't agree with you and your unpopular opinions. Sounds like a whole bunch of whining without backing it up with action.

**Frownland** · 09-05-2017, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

^ You get to sit back and complain that so and so isn't doing enough for your liking but you aren't doing a damn thing yourself to attack systemic issues. You are just complaining about people that don't agree with you and your unpopular opinions. Sounds like a whole bunch of whining without backing it up with action.

And neither are you!

Assumptions are a bitch huh.

djchameleon · 09-05-2017, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

And neither are you!

Assumptions are a bitch huh.

I am actually but even if I wasn't.

I'm not the one holding up certain standards against what others should be doing. Claiming they should be being more than they are.

I'd love to hear what he's doing if anything to combat these systemic issues that he's concerned with or just stating he is for the sake of complaining about others not doing enough.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I mean

I don't understand why being like "yo that's racist" should give anyone any further obligations in a cause,

say something bigoted, get called a stupid bigot

Agreed but what usually happens is the person calling out the bigot gets into an argument with the other person that believes it wasn't even a racist thing that was said or that they shouldn't be offended by what was said. It's like they want to decide what should and shouldn't be offensive for the other person.

Lucem Ferre · 09-05-2017, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

^ You get to sit back and complain that so and so isn't doing enough for your liking but you aren't doing a damn thing yourself to attack systemic issues. You are just complaining about people that don't agree with you and your unpopular opinions. Sounds like a whole bunch of whining without backing it up with action.

I complain about people pretending to give a **** that don't. It's easy to follow. Because they don't actually further the cause they muddy it up with fake bull****. Often times becoming a detriment to the cause. Like, okay, lets discuss and try to change this ****ty holiday instead of talking about real issues.

I don't do **** other than call out bull**** just as most people, but I don't make up bull**** to call out for the sake of a hero roll. I think that right there, the discussion, rather than narcissistic name calling for a facade, is at least half the battle. And I honestly don't even give enough of a **** to help myself, what makes you think I give enough of a **** to protest or vote? Like, ****, I live in Utah, we honestly don't have most of these racial issues here too often.

Think about it. I had a hard time understanding why I should identify somebody as a certain gender. Elph calls me a moron, you just tell me to just do it because it's the thing to do, and Chio and Pae break it down and help me understand just a little more. Now who the hell do you think actually gave a ****? The people that put enough thought into it to know what to tell me. Who do you think helped the cause more? The people that actually gave a ****. Maybe it only slightly changed only one person's perception just a little bit, but that one conversation actually added something to help the cause. And me? That's what I've done and have completely given up on because I stopped giving a ****. Got sick of arguing with brick walls that don't give a **** about fixing or helping anything because all they give a **** about is being right and stroking their own cocks for picking side to sheepishly follow.

Edit: And it's more upsetting seeing these retarded fake liberal issues being handled by arrogant pricks because you expect more from them. Like, ****, Trump people are just flat out dumb. Lets admit that. They made a ****ty decision through terrible reasoning and a lot of them are too egotistical, idiotic or, dare I say, racist to admit it.

djchameleon · 09-06-2017, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I complain about people pretending to give a **** that don't. It's easy to follow. Because they don't actually further the cause they muddy it up with fake bull****. Often times becoming a detriment to the cause. Like, okay, lets discuss and try to change this ****ty holiday instead of talking about real issues.

Also just because smaller things are happening doesn't mean the real issues arent being talked about. They aren't going to happen overnight so these smaller things are done in the mean time.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

I don't do **** other than call out bull**** just as most people, but I don't make up bull**** to call out for the sake of a hero roll. I think that right there, the discussion, rather than narcissistic name calling for a facade, is at least half the battle. And I honestly don't even give enough of a **** to help myself, what makes you think I give enough of a **** to protest or vote? Like, ****, I live in Utah, we honestly don't have most of these racial issues here too often.

Exactly so I really don't get why you feel like you ade above the same people you are calling out. Also, it isn't just about protesting and voting. It is about having conversations with your white peers and calling them out on their bull**** that contributes to these systems overall.

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Think about it. I had a hard time understanding why I should identify somebody as a certain gender. Elph calls me a moron, you just tell me to just do it because it's the thing to do, and Chio and Pae break it down and help me understand just a little more. Now who the hell do you think actually gave a ****? The people that put enough thought into it to know what to tell me. Who do you think helped the cause more? The people that actually gave a ****. Maybe it only slightly changed only one person's perception just a little bit, but that one conversation actually added something to help the cause. And me? That's what I've done and have completely given up on because I stopped giving a ****. Got sick of arguing with brick walls that don't give a **** about fixing or helping anything because all they give a **** about is being right and stroking their own cocks for picking side to sheepishly follow.

Those two have more patience to deal with you. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to change their opinion. They are usually stuck in their ways and it doesnt matter what I say when trying to inform them. I just normally agree to disagree and keep it moving. Same thing happens when I get into discussions with Trump supporters.

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Originally Posted by Mord

Black people don't have it any easier or harder than anyone else. Life's a bitch for pretty much everyone.

Thanks for your input as a white man on the black experience and what they go through.

~~putin~~ · 09-03-2017, 06:38 PM

I think Jordan Peterson simplifies the issue in the most concise and thorough way: Humans evolved in the context of a tribe, and so there is an inherent cost/risk analysis which goes into dealing with someone from another tribe. Such a person inherently offers something of potential value, such as someone to trade with, as well as an inherent probability of posing a risk to the tribe. The risk can come in many forms, most typically either to introduce a new disease or to become an enemy due to conflicting tribal loyalties.

To hear what i am referencing go to Youtube and watch the video entitled Rogan and Peterson on Hitler, public health, and the serpent

Justthefacts · 09-03-2017, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by putin

I think Jordan Peterson simplifies the issue in the most concise and thorough way: Humans evolved in the context of a tribe, and so there is an inherent cost/risk analysis which goes into dealing with someone from another tribe. Such a person inherently offers something of potential value, such as someone to trade with, as well as an inherent probability of posing a risk to the tribe. The risk can come in many forms, most typically either to introduce a new disease or to become an enemy due to conflicting tribal loyalties.

To hear what i am referencing go to Youtube and watch the video entitled Rogan and Peterson on Hitler, public health, and the serpent

Fuck you Putin.

~~putin~~ · 09-03-2017, 06:59 PM

what did i ever do to you?

OccultHawk · 09-03-2017, 07:08 PM

Putin

Could you please just rule America directly instead of through Trump?

~~putin~~ · 09-03-2017, 07:15 PM

occult hawk, you are delusional. you guys made sure that putin and trump could not have any sort of alliance. good job. that's not enough for you? you still want to carry on pretending that putin is running ****?

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~~putin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 9	I think Jordan Peterson simplifies the issue in the most concise and thorough way: Humans evolved in the context of a tribe, and so there is an inherent cost/risk analysis which goes into dealing with someone from another tribe. Such a person inherently offers something of potential value, such as someone to trade with, as well as an inherent probability of posing a risk to the tribe. The risk can come in many forms, most typically either to introduce a new disease or to become an enemy due to conflicting tribal loyalties. To hear what i am referencing go to Youtube and watch the video entitled Rogan and Peterson on Hitler, public health, and the serpent

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~~putin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 9	what did i ever do to you?

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~~putin~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 9	occult hawk, you are delusional. you guys made sure that putin and trump could not have any sort of alliance. good job. that's not enough for you? you still want to carry on pretending that putin is running ****?