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**Frownland** · 01-20-2018, 12:44 PM

Most modern free speech advocates are more along the lines of freedom from criticism advocates. It's a shame tbh

Machine · 01-20-2018, 12:48 PM

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Most modern free speech advocates are more along the lines of freedom from criticism advocates. It's a shame tbh

Again that's not entirely true, hate speech laws are rampant in Europe. I couldn't the exact source rn, but last week or so bunch of people got arrested for saying mean things about the gang of Muslim men who raped 1400 girls over the last 15 or so years. They Brits got in trouble for not liking that. Man that is ****ed on so many levels. In America it isn't that dire, but it easily could be and that's the problem.

**Frownland** · 01-20-2018, 12:50 PM

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Again that's not entirely true, hate speech laws are rampant in Europe. I couldn't the exact source rn, but last week or so bunch of people got arrested for saying mean things about the gang of Muslim men who raped 1400 girls over the last 15 or so years. They Brits got in trouble for not liking that. Man that is ****ed on so many levels. In America it isn't that dire, but it easily could be and that's the problem.

It's 100% true that the figureheads of the modern free speech movement are simply profiting off of victimizing conservatism.

And you're gonna have to give me a source for that. There are a lot of factors that could be at play if it is even true and I get the feeling that your intel isn't as journalistic as it could be.

Machine · 01-20-2018, 12:55 PM

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It's 100% true that the figureheads of the modern free speech movement are simply profiting off of victimizing conservatism.

And you're gonna have to give me a source for that. There are a lot of factors that could be at play if it is even true and I get the feeling that your intel isn't as journalistic as it could be.

Free speech is a more important value than anything else.

Also I'll concede this I was a bit wrong on the second point, less of a speech issue now and of a gross disservice the British govt is doing at actually protecting British people.
https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rothe...sers-1-6807187

And before you say anything, YES the police did know this was happening, but refused to do anything about.

**Frownland** · 01-20-2018, 01:03 PM

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Free speech is a more important value than anything else.

Idk about it being tops, but that goes without saying tbh.

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Also I'll concede this I was a bit wrong on the second point, less of a speech issue now and of a gross disservice the British govt is doing at actually protecting British people.
https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/rothe...sers-1-6807187

And before you say anything, YES the police did know this was happening, but refused to do anything about.

Thanks for the link. The jury'll blubber over the descriptions of the sexual assault(s) and they'll be good though.

Machine · 01-20-2018, 01:06 PM

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Idk about it being tops, but that goes without saying tbh.

Thanks for the link. The jury'll blubber over the descriptions of the sexual assault(s) and they'll be good though.

Well I sure hope they do, these guys were pure evil.

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