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Mindy · 01-27-2018, 05:28 PM

Machine · 01-27-2018, 05:33 PM

LMAO humans are just as biologically driven as any other animal. Any society has a hierarchy. We just happen to have a social component.

OccultHawk · 01-27-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon

yes and the drives that make that happen (tribalism in the interest of survival, f.ex.) are all rooted in our shared biology. our understanding of cultural relativism is dependent on biological wiring.

I think we’re on the same page but let me see if you agree with this distinction:

Our understanding of cultural relativism IS biological wiring. Our understanding of anything is biological wiring. Understanding itself is biological wiring.

OccultHawk · 01-27-2018, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness

lol

OccultHawk · 01-27-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Machine

LMAO humans are just as biologically driven as any other animal. Any society has a hierarchy. We just happen to have a social component.

All animals are only biology.

Sounds infantile perhaps but it seems like a pill that people can’t swallow. I’m not saying you. I’m pointing out the social component are thoughts and thoughts don’t live in the mystic. They’re chemicals. Collections of elements organized a certain way.

WWWP · 01-27-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I think we’re on the same page but let me see if you agree with this distinction:

Our understanding of cultural relativism IS biological wiring. Our understanding of anything is biological wiring. Understanding itself is biological wiring.

yes i agree.

@elph you might be interested in the book The Faith Instinct by Nicholas Wade. it it all about the topic at hand and how social behaviors evolved over time for survival etc. and argues that faith and religion stems from a biological need/drive (which i always thought was pretty obvious but it's well articulated by the author). it's a good read.

OccultHawk · 01-27-2018, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Culture is not metaphysical but it's not biological either because it's the collective learned behaviors not the chemicals that form as a result

Instead of arguing, debating, or explaining I’m only going to ask you to figure out what’s wrong with that statement on your own.

Machine · 01-27-2018, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

All animals are only biology.

Sounds infantile perhaps but it seems like a pill that people can’t swallow. I’m not saying you. I’m pointing out the social component are thoughts and thoughts don’t live in the mystic. They’re chemicals. Collections of elements organized a certain way.

Agreed.

OccultHawk · 01-27-2018, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I get the feeling we're talking right past each other

consider something as simple as ettiquite

all the way down the line your brain has wired itself around the social environment in which you've came to be

not a physical thing, it's conceptual, but it tells your physical brain how to behave towards the people around you

WWWP · 01-27-2018, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

culture sets your biological wiring for many things to put it another way

your understanding of everything is warped by your culture

i would argue the inverse, that biological wiring sets the culture(s). being in tune with and adapting to new environments/cultures is a survival mechanism. our biology is what makes us social, not the other way around.

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