Jordan Peterson - Get a damn hoover, ey.

OccultHawk · 01-23-2018, 09:22 AM

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serotonin plays different roles within humans than it does for lobsters

Are you sure? Source?

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most egregious is that giant unsupported leap he brings up with dominance hierarchies

I didn’t like that either but I feel like you’re more likely than me to write it off because you don’t want it to be true.

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immediately get the feel there's a gross social Darwinist angle in the weeds

I don’t think it’s hidden.

OccultHawk · 01-23-2018, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

If he's presenting himself on the strength of his ideas, they have to be well-formed ideas. I pretty much hold that standard to everybody tbh.

I’m more flexible depending on the context.

OccultHawk · 01-23-2018, 10:48 AM

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he glosses over the fact that humans are social animals unlike lobsters

Lobsters chit chat with urine.

**Frownland** · 01-23-2018, 10:50 AM

Can a lobster survive without that communication? It takes a lot more than communication to be a social animal.

OccultHawk · 01-23-2018, 11:27 AM

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Can a lobster survive without that communication?

My money is on lobster piss chat wouldn’t exist without being evolutionarily advantageous.

OccultHawk · 01-23-2018, 11:59 AM

Dig holes in him all you want. He’s still interesting. Haters gonna hate because he’s not on the campus party line. Why nitpick him?

**Frownland** · 01-23-2018, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

Dig holes in him all you want. He’s still interesting. Haters gonna hate because he’s not on the campus party line. Why nitpick him?

I disliked his style before I was aware of his stance on gender identity. I'm gonna nitpick because he's presented as a great thinker when he's really just slick.

rubber soul · 01-27-2018, 02:28 PM

Hi, Will. Where's the Fresh Prince?

WWWP · 01-27-2018, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by will smith

You haven't posted a single critique of his ideas that actually invalidates his main point. You are just getting bogged down in details like "does serotonin have an identical role in humans as in lobsters?" to muddy the waters. As if he was saying Humans and lobsters are identical. He is noting how primordial and biologically grounded things like dominance hierarchies actually are. Which they are, and they can be observed throughout nature.

It seems like either you just don't understand what he is saying and to compensate for that, focus on tedious and irrelevant tangents, or you do understand but you don't like the message so you are looking for ways to reject it. I'm leaning towards the former tbh.

quoting before inevitable deletion

Mindy · 01-27-2018, 02:35 PM

nice^

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