Jordan Peterson - Get a damn hoover, ey.

Psy-Fi · 07-17-2017, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I listened to a few minutes and felt like I was listening to Tony Robbins with a Canadian accent.

Minus the creepy smile and firewalking gimmick.

**Goofle** · 07-18-2017, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I had that impression initially, watched another video and still felt exactly the same way. I feel like he wastes a lot of time either saying absolutely nothing, devolving into anecdotal and distracting tangents, or putting very straightforward ideas across from what I've seen so far.

So what's his best one, gents?

I think the problem you may be having is that you could be coming too late into his catalogue, and the videos you have seen are more on the metaphysical and abstract side of what he has put out there. I enjoy these personally because I think he's a great speaker and puts across his opinions well - but they are essentially opinions and go off on tangents, without a specific basis in science or empirical evidence. They are a lot more subjective and may not be to your taste.

But a lot of his University lectures are very much science based psychology, with his own spin. This series, for example, delves a lot more into legitimate psychological discussion based on facts and evidence that have been studied so far:

**Frownland** · 07-18-2017, 03:37 PM

I'll definitely check that out. The biggest issue I have with him is the style you describe since he makes an assertion and spends no time validating it but instead uses it as a jumping off point for his opinions. It appears that people consider this to be a way of being extra convincing. He seems to get a lot of criticism for his (tame af) conservatism, but that's not really an issue for me tbh. Based on bit of the Joe Rogan interview I saw with him, he gets a lot of respect from people who think that being silenced means what was being said is really important too. I saw a lot of videos with titles like "Jordan Peterson explains why the left is an evil plague that will murder your babies" but I figure that those reflect the uploader more than him. If that does reflect him, it kind of affirms my opinion that he's a panderer of the highest order.

Will report back this evening after watching the philosophy video, that's a very interesting and expansive topic in the field

**Goofle** · 07-18-2017, 06:31 PM

He's not right wing at all, but I too have seen the same "JP destroys the left" type videos, as if he's on the right. He's basically just anti-totalitarianism. One of his recent videos pointed out how bad the latest NRA video is, for example. I don't disagree with him (check it out, it's hilariously bad) and have found him to be completely unbiased when it comes to political ideologies. If anything he's probably the type of person who would reluctantly vote Democrat.

Either way, my like/love of his work comes more from his fact based psychological talks, even if I do enjoy his theories on metaphysical concepts etc.

**Goofle** · 11-23-2017, 07:07 AM

There was some mention of Bill C-16 in the US Election Day thread, but it's probably easier to post this here:

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This is a meeting between teaching assistant Lindsay Shepherd and Wilfrid Laurier University representatives. Shepherd was called in for violating the school's Gendered and Sexual Violence policy by screening a few minutes of a TVOntario program which questioned the use of gender-neutral pronouns.

https://soundcloud.com/tristin-john-...ity-professors

JP's response.

OccultHawk · 11-23-2017, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

There was some mention of Bill C-16 in the US Election Day thread, but it's probably easier to post this here:

https://soundcloud.com/tristin-john-...ity-professors

JP's response.

You know, I don’t share your conservative views but **** like that makes it easy to see why someone would want to distance themselves from the left.

Parts of the left make up things that are so ridiculous it’s sad to dignify them with a response. And then they persecute you for not playing along.

People who don’t understand how dangerous that behavior can be should read about China’s Cultural Revolution.

**Goofle** · 11-23-2017, 07:33 AM

I'm not a conservative, I am just right-wing economically. Whilst I may think some things work better for people in general, I don't wanna tell people what to do with their lives.

The two sides (economics and social) are tied in together. For example, I would be an open borders advocate if the economy was completely run by individuals making decisions as opposed to the government.

rubber soul · 11-23-2017, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

I'm not a conservative, I am just right-wing economically. Whilst I may think some things work better for people in general, I don't wanna tell people what to do with their lives.

The two sides (economics and social) are tied in together. For example, I would be an open borders advocate if the economy was completely run by individuals making decisions as opposed to the government.

That's the problem with party politics. You have to kowtow to the doctrine of the party platform even if you don't agree with parts of it. Jefferson was right when he was against the concept of political parties. You really can't vote your conscience and that's why we're in the mess we're in.

**Goofle** · 11-25-2017, 04:28 PM

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OccultHawk · 11-25-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

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07-18-2017, 03:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I'll definitely check that out. The biggest issue I have with him is the style you describe since he makes an assertion and spends no time validating it but instead uses it as a jumping off point for his opinions. It appears that people consider this to be a way of being extra convincing. He seems to get a lot of criticism for his (tame af) conservatism, but that's not really an issue for me tbh. Based on bit of the Joe Rogan interview I saw with him, he gets a lot of respect from people who think that being silenced means what was being said is really important too. I saw a lot of videos with titles like "Jordan Peterson explains why the left is an evil plague that will murder your babies" but I figure that those reflect the uploader more than him. If that does reflect him, it kind of affirms my opinion that he's a panderer of the highest order. Will report back this evening after watching the philosophy video, that's a very interesting and expansive topic in the field __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x