Jordan Peterson - Get a damn hoover, ey.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 09:57 AM

Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 10:07 AM

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Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.

Social influence does not exist outside of biology. So biology influences biology.

Once you start talking about social influence as if it’s non-biological you’re off in the mystic again.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 10:13 AM

I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 10:26 AM

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I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.

I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 10:28 AM

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I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.

Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 10:41 AM

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Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?

The correct discussion is exactly what Peterson was talking about: the hippocampus and amygdala.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 10:42 AM

Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.

OccultHawk · 01-28-2018, 10:45 AM

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Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.

It depends on if you understood what he was saying or not.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2018, 10:48 AM

I guess I don't. Explain the hack's point for me.

You seriously don't consider equating (or as some might say: reducing) our predisposition to accept social influence with social influence itself to be a valuable stance, do you?

grindy · 01-28-2018, 10:54 AM

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Yes those are things.

We need a thread about that.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

01-28-2018, 10:48 AM	#109 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I guess I don't. Explain the hack's point for me. You seriously don't consider equating (or as some might say: reducing) our predisposition to accept social influence with social influence itself to be a valuable stance, do you? __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x