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Old 01-28-2018, 09:57 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:07 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Would be a good point if social influence wasn't such a big part of this discussion.
Social influence does not exist outside of biology. So biology influences biology.

Once you start talking about social influence as if it’s non-biological you’re off in the mystic again.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:13 AM   #103 (permalink)
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I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.
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I don't disagree with that, but it's still far too reductionist imo because you're stripping away myriad relevant factors.
I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:28 AM   #105 (permalink)
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I’m taking the woo out of it so it can be discussed correctly.
Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?
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Alright say that I was fine with your reductionist take of social influence. What is the point that needs to be discussed now and how is it a better discussion than, say, finding the source and justification of one social influence?
The correct discussion is exactly what Peterson was talking about: the hippocampus and amygdala.
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Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.
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Yes those are things. Not much of a discussion is it.
It depends on if you understood what he was saying or not.
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Old 01-28-2018, 10:48 AM   #109 (permalink)
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I guess I don't. Explain the hack's point for me.

You seriously don't consider equating (or as some might say: reducing) our predisposition to accept social influence with social influence itself to be a valuable stance, do you?
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Yes those are things.
We need a thread about that.
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