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The Batlord · 10-08-2020, 09:06 AM

Lemme guess. The Republicans are the only obstructionists and it was Trump who just killed the stimulus so the Dems have no ownership?

TheBig3 · 10-08-2020, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Lemme guess. The Republicans are the only obstructionists and it was Trump who just killed the stimulus so the Dems have no ownership?

Of the stimulus?

McConnell told Trump he thought Pelosi was playing him and he pulled the plug on negotiations, likely because McConnell wants the USSJC nomination prioritized to save flagging GOP Senators.

But let's assume you mean Democrats are just as guilty. Did you say the same thing back in the first half of the year when they held up checks to mandate that recipients couldn't lay off employees after taking the check?

Or is that not obstruction because you approve of it?

**Frownland** · 10-08-2020, 09:31 AM

Got em!

The Batlord · 10-08-2020, 09:42 AM

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Of the stimulus?

McConnell told Trump he thought Pelosi was playing him and he pulled the plug on negotiations, likely because McConnell wants the USSJC nomination prioritized to save flagging GOP Senators.

But let's assume you mean Democrats are just as guilty. Did you say the same thing back in the first half of the year when they held up checks to mandate that recipients couldn't lay off employees after taking the check?

Or is that not obstruction because you approve of it?

Those protections have been gone for a while now and yet the Dems have shown no urgency to do anything about it. In other words that was then and this is now.

OccultHawk · 10-08-2020, 09:44 AM

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Did you say the same thing back in the first half of the year when they held up checks to mandate that recipients couldn't lay off employees after taking the check?

I bitched and moaned at every turn where it felt like the dems were gonna **** it up. All I said was show me the money. Dems almost cockblocked the first one and did cockblock the second.

It’s like you’re about to close the deal on some mediocre pussy when your “friend” asks where your girlfriend is and then when you complain he says oh man it’s not like that I wanted you to get even better pussy. Well where the **** is it, honky?

OccultHawk · 10-08-2020, 09:45 AM

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Those protections have been gone for a while now and yet the Dems have shown no urgency to do anything about it. In other words that was then and this is now.

Nobody has a bigger hard on for not giving you a goddamn cent than the Democratic Party.

~~jwb~~ · 10-08-2020, 09:45 AM

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This argument is hilarious. I'm too lazy to quote my references, but you guys are mad they're not hardcore defending policies they don't support. That's why you think she lost.

Also, if fracking and tax cuts below $400k is wonky, then so is H1N1. Who the **** remembers H1N1? No one, and no one gives a **** about it. Democrats should ignore those things, like they ignore packing the court - because no one is voting on that issue.

Healthcare, COVID, the Economy. Only three things you should be mentioning constantly.

thing is they don't support those programs but they support lite versions of them that to a republican or independent are almost equally distasteful so they still get the stigma without having the balls to give a real endorsement

You guys keep thinking of you cut some calories in the policies it will make it more appetising for the right and will be more palatable. But those people are anorexic and you're wasting your time.

OccultHawk · 10-08-2020, 09:48 AM

The republicans had a proposal. Give me a little give the pentagon a lot. Go with that. The one where I actually get something.

The Batlord · 10-08-2020, 09:58 AM

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I bitched and moaned at every turn where it felt like the dems were gonna **** it up. All I said was show me the money. Dems almost cockblocked the first one and did cockblock the second.

It’s like you’re about to close the deal on some mediocre pussy when your “friend” asks where your girlfriend is and then when you complain he says oh man it’s not like that I wanted you to get even better pussy. Well where the **** is it, honky?

And you know what? We all mocked you (rightfully I think for that first offer on a second stimulus from the right cause it was nothing with ****ty strings attached and even you agreed it was bull**** after a couple days) but in the end you were right. The Dems should have caved. After that first stimulus withe deaths mounting and Trump's mismanagement making the political calculus fall further and further on the Dems' side to let Trump eat the fallout for no stimulus they just had no incentive to cave. Excepr of course to help actual human beings who were suffering but clearly that's not on their political radar.

~~jwb~~ · 10-08-2020, 12:57 PM

I don't think the second one was really ever on offer by the Republicans iirc. I thought they were basically offering some scaled down continuation of unemployment and **** like that... Not a second round of $1200 stimulus payments

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I don't think the second one was really ever on offer by the Republicans iirc. I thought they were basically offering some scaled down continuation of unemployment and **** like that... Not a second round of $1200 stimulus payments