Originally Posted by elphenor

pretty sure you're wrong

do you want to see this portrait of Mao literally casting a vote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_China

Originally Posted by jwb

From what I remember teasing this was actually am issue of contention in socialist parties in earlier days. Socialist parties in Europe that existed in more liberal and less repressive regimes were much more likely to want to work within the system and thus less radical. Ones that lived in more repressive regimes were more radical and unwilling to even entertain the idea of working with the government and more bent on revolution.

I think that's part of why the revolution never came in Western industrialized countries, only repressive backwaters like Russia, China etc. Despite the fact that Marx predicted it starting in countries more like France, Germany and England.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by elphenor

You. Could. Do. Both.

but you're going to do neither, keep LARPing

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I hope it's him voting for himself, I didn't mean it as evidence for my point, I just thought it was funny

Originally Posted by elphenor

Marx would probably be incredibly impressed with the current Democratic platform

it's more left wing than he could have imagined could exist alongside capitalism

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm advocating for voting for Biden if you're in a swing state

I may or may not bother myself, I live in Texas

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm advocating for voting for Biden if you're in a swing state

I may or may not bother myself, I live in Texas

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If any state is decided by one vote I’ll mail you my entire music collection.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by elphenor

what is the act of voting so strenuous you have to sit out political action for 4 years?