Political Discussions for "Adults"

TheBig3 · 08-12-2020, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

In the first 20 minutes I didn't honestly hear much that was very contentious. Yes the 2008 financial crisis was bad and the people responsible were never given real consequences. Yes this helped lead to the rise in populist politics with occupy on the left and the tea party on the right. None of this seems uniquely appealing to the DSA to me. I rarely hear or speak to anyone who disagrees with this.

More about the concept of the working class getting sold out and gutted by the higher ups, I would have guessed would have been a welcome position.

Who knows, maybe I'm projecting, but the biggest gripe I have with the DNC, and the area I'm probably more aligned with the DSA on is the wild over financialization of the US. The Ivy Grads getting a degree in space aeronautics and working at McKinsey, every company regardless of sector offering you a credit card, the leveraged-buyout apocalypse putting people out of work.

I guess I was wrong. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Frownland

To clarify: you're Diogenes for publicly masturbating and I'm Diogenes for calling out bad logic like a dick.

As long as you acknowledge you're a dick, I'm fine with it.

The Batlord · 08-12-2020, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

More about the concept of the working class getting sold out and gutted by the higher ups, I would have guessed would have been a welcome position.

Who knows, maybe I'm projecting, but the biggest gripe I have with the DNC, and the area I'm probably more aligned with the DSA on is the wild over financialization of the US. The Ivy Grads getting a degree in space aeronautics and working at McKinsey, every company regardless of sector offering you a credit card, the leveraged-buyout apocalypse putting people out of work.

I guess I was wrong. Oh well.

I guess to ask what you're asking you'd have to assume the far left picked up on all that but had no other principles informing their choices and just kind of happened upon socialism as the first anti-bad people idea they'd ever heard, so it could just as easily been far right populism.

~~jwb~~ · 08-12-2020, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

More about the concept of the working class getting sold out and gutted by the higher ups, I would have guessed would have been a welcome position.

Who knows, maybe I'm projecting, but the biggest gripe I have with the DNC, and the area I'm probably more aligned with the DSA on is the wild over financialization of the US. The Ivy Grads getting a degree in space aeronautics and working at McKinsey, every company regardless of sector offering you a credit card, the leveraged-buyout apocalypse putting people out of work.

I guess I was wrong. Oh well.

Once again that's not wrong it's just not some unique DSA talking point. It's the kind of thing that is so popularly held as self evident that even the politicians who might not sympathize with it deep down still feel the need to pay lip service to it.

TheBig3 · 08-12-2020, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Once again that's not wrong it's just not some unique DSA talking point. It's the kind of thing that is so popularly held as self evident that even the politicians who might not sympathize with it deep down still feel the need to pay lip service to it.

I rarely see the Centrists mention it.