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Old 07-28-2020, 06:30 PM   #6531 (permalink)
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You're misunderstanding me. I do see the influence. That was exactly the kind of thing I was referring to as symbolism which you dismissed as something we should get past and then went on to explain how important it was
I understood what you said to mean "winning the white house." Still, I wouldn't call what we're both talking about to be "symbolic." It's real legislative power.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:32 PM   #6532 (permalink)
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Yes, but We, the Pragmatic Adults, surely we have had enough of this symbolism, yes? For we recognize after Obama that the presidency does not actually matter, which is why We could not have possibly elected Bernie into the office and have decided that Biden is the only Rational Choice. We, the Pragmatic Adults, who see through the Logical inconsistencies of these unfaithful Team players, surely we are not swayed by such insidious calls to action such as voting with so-called conscience and consistency, yes?

Astonished, I am, at the audacity of those who do not see what is clearly the Rational Choice like We, the Pragmatic Adults do. Do they not understand the contradictions of their philosophy despite We, the Pragmatic Adults explaining to them that they do not understand their own position? Curious, I say, and I think it is a fair basis to wholly dismiss them, for We know that they do not vote.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:34 PM   #6533 (permalink)
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Yes, but We, the Pragmatic Adults, surely we have had enough of this symbolism, yes? For we recognize after Obama that the presidency does not actually matter, which is why We could not have possibly elected Bernie into the office and have decided that Biden is the only Rational Choice. We, the Pragmatic Adults, who see through the Logical inconsistencies of these unfaithful Team players, surely we are not swayed by such insidious calls to action such as voting with so-called conscience and consistency, yes?

Astonished, I am, at the audacity of those who do not see what is clearly the Rational Choice like We, the Pragmatic Adults do. Do they not understand the contradictions of their philosophy despite We, the Pragmatic Adults explaining to them that they don't understand their own position? Curious, I say, and I think it is a fair basis to wholly dismiss them, for We know that they do not vote.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:43 PM   #6534 (permalink)
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I understood what you said to mean "winning the white house." Still, I wouldn't call what we're both talking about to be "symbolic." It's real legislative power.
what legislative power did he use to exert this influence you speak of?

Obviously the entire point of symbolism is to shift the scope of the discussion enough to translate to real legislative power eventually.
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what legislative power did he use to exert this influence you speak of?

Obviously the entire point of symbolism is to shift the scope of the discussion enough to translate to real legislative power eventually.
oh ffs, I tell ya what. You guys are all right, and I'm wrong. I hope you sleep well.
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Look at the Mature Pragmatist leaving the internet arguing to the Immature Rabble. Performative losing at its best.
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TheBig3: *slew of bad faith questions and astonishment that clearly exposes a bias*
jwb: *posts opinion and a follow up question, also pretty bad faith*
TheBig3: *gasp* How do you sleep at night?
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Hey, Big3 Smalls, what do you think of Biden being a rapist?
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oh ffs, I tell ya what. You guys are all right, and I'm wrong. I hope you sleep well.
I don't know how it is you expect me to sleep well knowing I'm overturning the votes of people who just want to finally see a president that doesn't even try get our hopes up
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