Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:15 PM

yawn

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 04:19 PM

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Not if you want to actually discuss something in particular.

No, distracting from the root issue by deflecting the blame to one side definitely gets in the way of that.

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Originally Posted by jwb

Also which counter examples?

If you would you really like help with examples of the American right demonizing or attempting to suppress opposing opinions, I'll do that but I want to give you the benefit of the doubt before spitting a list at you.

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:24 PM

No. Give me an example of right wingers using guilt via association to smear other right wingers for talking to a "problematic" leftist

Cause that's specifically what I'm talking about on the left. That's what I was referring to as mccarthyist.

OccultHawk · 08-08-2019, 04:39 PM

The left has a unique way of “shutting down” voices they don’t like therefore it’s useful to talk about this problem in isolation.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

No. Give me an example of right wingers using guilt via association to smear other right wingers for talking to a "problematic" leftist

Cause that's specifically what I'm talking about on the left. That's what I was referring to as mccarthyist.

Ah, when you were referring to them as McCarthyist, I thought that you were referring to

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the way they categorize anyone who talks to anyone they disagree with as the enemy

Can you give me some examples of what the right views as problematic leftists?

I could see a conservative uproar if some high ranking conservative interviewed this guy without challenging any of his points or criticizing him. https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/ed...226810084.html

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 04:47 PM

That quote was literally a rewording of what I just said, lol

And in the case of Rogan he's not even a high ranking leftist he's just a guy with a podcast that the left deems "problematic" cause he's had right wing guests on and he has a large, mostly young audience.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

The left has a unique way of “shutting down” voices they don’t like therefore it’s useful to talk about this problem in isolation.

That's fair. I think the difference is just that they're successful with their attempts nowadays.

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Originally Posted by jwb

That quote was literally a rewording of what I just said, lol

Apart from moving the goalposts to only include interparty smearing. But ja, I misread it as just "categorize anyone they disagree with as the enemy" lol.

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And in the case of Rogan he's not even a high ranking leftist he's just a guy with a podcast that the left deems "problematic" cause he's had right wing guests on and he has a large, mostly young audience.

Are you sure that it isn't because he high fives basically anything that's said on his show which includes blatant propaganda?

~~jwb~~ · 08-08-2019, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Apart from moving the goalposts to only include interparty smearing. But ja, I misread it as just "categorize anyone they disagree with as the enemy" lol.

I didn't move the goal posts, you just misread.

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Are you sure that it isn't because he high fives basically anything that's said on his show which includes blatant propaganda?

No, it's because they felt too many of those high fives were going to right wing instead of left wing propaganda.

They've done nothing but fawn over his recent softball interviews of left wingers.

**Frownland** · 08-08-2019, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

I didn't move the goal posts, you just misread.

Poor word choice, goal post moving, same difference.

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No, it's because they felt too many of those high fives were going to right wing instead of left wing propaganda.

They've done nothing but fawn over his recent softball interviews of left wingers.

You're right, They did do all of that.

Anteater · 08-08-2019, 05:43 PM

I like Rogan. Gives everyone a chance to be themselves, whether that's uber capitalists like Musk or guys like Sanders and Yang.

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I don't know who the real equiv to Cornell West on the right is

Cuckpiro and Lobster Man are just hucksters

Thomas Sowell probably.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	No. Give me an example of right wingers using guilt via association to smear other right wingers for talking to a "problematic" leftist Cause that's specifically what I'm talking about on the left. That's what I was referring to as mccarthyist.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That quote was literally a rewording of what I just said, lol And in the case of Rogan he's not even a high ranking leftist he's just a guy with a podcast that the left deems "problematic" cause he's had right wing guests on and he has a large, mostly young audience.