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Old 07-30-2019, 11:32 PM   #2101 (permalink)
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I wish they'd just say yes

and then go on to explain most Americans net save quite a bit of money anyway and never worry about paperwork or plans or losing coverage
I was thinking that too.

That whole counter argument that they’re taking away “great coverage” that the unions fought for is such a ****ing joke. And the public option along side private insurers is ridiculous.

Even after watching the debate there’s like 4 or 5 I still don’t know from tonight.

Who the **** was that new guy arguing that America needs to keep a first strike nuclear attack option on the table. Seriously dude go be a Republican. Warren was looking at him stunned.

Warren articulated her points better than Bernie but Bernie hit some good zingers. Bernie ripped apart that idiotic bald ****.

That **** that hospitals would close with Medicare for All is crap. Their medical debt collection agencies would close.

And that ******* saying he’s against the Green New Deal. Warren threw a great zinger at him with “Why are you running for president if you don’t want to do anything?” Booya! The progressive message is so dominant. It’s amazing.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:45 PM   #2102 (permalink)
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and then go on to explain most Americans net save quite a bit of money anyway and never worry about paperwork or plans or losing coverage
Democrats are pussies though.
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Old 07-30-2019, 11:45 PM   #2103 (permalink)
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That whole counter argument that they’re taking away “great coverage” that the unions fought for is such a ****ing joke.
Weren't the unions just the good cop to the Russian Revolution's "HOLY **** WE NEED TO GIVE THESE PEOPLE MINIMUM WAGE AND MEDICARE OR ELSE THEY'LL KILL US ALL!!!"
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There is no reason to raise taxes on anyone making under 300k, why not reverse the abomination they just put in?
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Old 07-31-2019, 12:08 AM   #2105 (permalink)
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I think it'll be funniest when Trump makes fun of this **** till it becomes a punchline and CNN helps and then 20 years from now the next generation is melting from the heat and can't afford their heat exhaustion bills and doesn't understand how all of this happened and I'm like "If it was you at the time you would have been just as stupid and so you deserve to sweat and collapse."
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Hilarious stuff.
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Old 07-31-2019, 07:20 AM   #2107 (permalink)
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They say no but they really mean yes.
Sanders said yes in the first debate.

The stupid part is saying you need to ban private insurance.
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I was thinking that too.

That whole counter argument that they’re taking away “great coverage” that the unions fought for is such a ****ing joke. And the public option along side private insurers is ridiculous.

Even after watching the debate there’s like 4 or 5 I still don’t know from tonight.

Who the **** was that new guy arguing that America needs to keep a first strike nuclear attack option on the table. Seriously dude go be a Republican. Warren was looking at him stunned.

Warren articulated her points better than Bernie but Bernie hit some good zingers. Bernie ripped apart that idiotic bald ****.

That **** that hospitals would close with Medicare for All is crap. Their medical debt collection agencies would close.

And that ******* saying he’s against the Green New Deal. Warren threw a great zinger at him with “Why are you running for president if you don’t want to do anything?” Booya! The progressive message is so dominant. It’s amazing.
Unless Bernie has an actual plan in mind to give doctors and medical professionals more ways to build their practices without having to have a relationship with private insurance companies, I don't see any way for him to overhaul health care.
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yes and no

you still gotta tax those that want private care

so while "ban" is the wording it needs to be made clear that you're making it obsolete
No. Private insurance must be banned. No private care period. They can’t coexist. It has to be illegal to have anything but what the government provides so the rich will demand the government to provide what we need. I get the same deal as Bill Gates or Bill Gates won’t make sure I get what every human being deserves. A person’s wealth has to be completely removed from the equation or it’s going to be the same bull**** forever.
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Unless Bernie has an actual plan in mind to give doctors and medical professionals more ways to build their practices without having to have a relationship with private insurance companies, I don't see any way for him to overhaul health care.
They get funded by Medicare for All which by design has to cost less because insurance companies make a profit. Since no profit is necessary in a socialized system that wasted excess is saved.

And if a hospital can’t treat people it’s just a building.

The hospitals won’t close. They’ll be busy treating people. And if the ones that only could treat rich people do close then good. **** them.
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