The Batlord

Which was why they were in place, you simpleton. Wear a mask don't wear a mask, just shut the **** up about it. Two years and a million dead and I still have to hear from you cretins who've probably never been right about a single thing in your lives? A mask is the only thing between your mouth and my balls.

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Trollheart

Jesus ****ing Christ, when will people get it?? Mask mandates were a) in place but many states didn't enforce them, b) there before the vaccine was available and c) supposed NOT TO PROTECT YOU but to protect OTHERS! You got a problem with that? ****ing seriously: our govt have removed any mask mandates but I still wear one because, oh, let's see, why... oh yeah. My sister has MS and I kinda don't want to kill her!

"Covid fatigue": what a ****ing ridiculous phrase. Oh, sorry Covid, it was fun but we're pissed off with you now, could you just please **** off? Hello? Hello???

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Pet_Sounds

I'll try to examine this argument instead. Even if the statement regarding high infection rates is true, it doesn't provide evidence for ineffectiveness of mask mandates. You'd expect that high infection rates would lead to stricter regulations being introduced.

It's like arguing that "the highest unemployment rate happened during the period that FDR's New Deal programs were in effect". Even if true, that's not evidence that the New Deal programs did nothing to help with unemployment: the programs were introduced because of high unemployment rates, so it's exactly what you should expect to see. (This is just the first example I could think of, btw—I'm not very well read up on American history.)

In fact, this could actually be spun as an argument for the effectiveness of mask mandates: if they were in place when the infection rate was highest, then the infection rate must have declined or levelled off while they were in place, indicating that they were effective at fighting against infection.

Maybe you can examine my case above and let me know what you think

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TheBig3

Anyone else feel like the Roe v. Wade decision is a Pyrrhic victory? I keep reading about states using traffic cameras to track women going to get an abortion and I'm thinking to myself, this feels like Charlottesville.

These idiots talk to themselves. Convince themselves that people want it, they get out of their bubble and the backlash is immediate. It's not the SCOTUS ruling that's going to freak people out. It's what the States do with it. The GOP talks a good game, but always gets some true-believer in the mix that doesn't understand the game and they blow it up for their party. I read somewhere that the general public didn't like how Merrick Garland was handled but only after Amy Coney Barrett. I think there's going to be a recoiling after Labor Day.

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Concept-V

EXAMINE YOURSELF!!!

It's a harmless virus with 99.7% survival rate. Don't believe all the garbage about the number of deaths, it's all inflated. You're not protecting anyone, not yourself or your family. It's all about control. They want to scare you with statistics. Many of the mask boxes, clearly say on them, they will not stop Covid transmission. I've been without masks since they lifted the mandates. Guess what??? No covid here. It's all made up to scare you. Many states didn't enforce the masks because they don't do anything to stop Covid. Covid is nothing more than the common cold and flu. Get over it!

Ayn Marx

So called Covid fatigue is suicidal idiocy by people who are so lacking in self discipline they deserve to be taken by the virus. Problem is their arrogant spoilt brat stupidity will raise it’s ugly head again when they expect intensive care in a terminal Covid ward.

The Batlord

Have you done the math on .3% of 329.5 million people (I'm just assuming you're American for my own convenience)? Cause it's 988,500 which is just under the official death toll of 1.02 million. Now, the official death rate of COVID with no precautions is higher than that but if we set that aside and just go with 99.7% then you are basically agreeing with the official story, and since the flu generally taps out at 40k a year you are also agreeing that COVID is far more dangerous than a cold or flu.

Feel dumb yet?

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Trollheart

Well that explains it. You're a Covid skeptic. In that case, I shall bid you farewell as you have no brain and I don't bother talking to people without a brain.

Oh, and I would say don't shout, it's rude, but then, that's all people like you know how to do isn't it? Shout, shout and shout again, fingers in your ears, shaking your head till the virus magically goes away.

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rubber soul

I warned you, Concept

Anyway, as far as the mask deal goes. It's kind of like getting a penicillin shot when you have the flu. You still get worse for a day or two but then the shot takes effect and you recover faster. It's kind of the same way with the masking, or least with those who did it.

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SGR

"Gee, there's a bug, there's a flu, there's a virus, they didn't know what it was...and I said 'UH-OH, UH-OH, that doesn't sound good!'"