Political Discussions for "Adults"

jadis · 05-19-2022, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Anime is the wildest thing I've seen hit culture in awhile. It's evidently made for children, but these morons will sit here and try to convince you it's high art. You can almost hear the logic. Sure, I never leave me garbage pile of a bedroom, and I'm a greasy unshaven mess, but if people just like, got it, they'd see I'm actually a genius who sees anime for what it truly is - the human condition laid bare.

That's the stereotype but the obsession with anime is a much wider phenomenon. It's probably as widespread among Gen Z girls, the majority of whom don't have any trouble finding sexual partners and aren't right wing in the slightest, as among the demographic you're describing. We've probably all seen this tweet and it's pretty spot on.

Queen Boo · 05-19-2022, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I'm glad someone else said it. Anime is the wildest thing I've seen hit culture in awhile. It's evidently made for children, but these morons will sit here and try to convince you it's high art. You can almost hear the logic. Sure, I never leave me garbage pile of a bedroom, and I'm a greasy unshaven mess, but if people just like, got it, they'd see I'm actually a genius who sees anime for what it truly is - the human condition laid bare.

You really got the wrong message from that post, what a ridiculous generalization to make about a whole medium and it's audience.

You know anime is literally all animation from Japan right? Saying all anime is for kids is like saying all animation is for kids, what is this the 90s? It was parents with this lazy mindset who bought their kids a VHS tape of Ninja Scroll for Christmas.

It's true a lot of terminally online fascists are into anime but that sure as hell doesn't represent the majority of anime fandom. There are all kinds of anime that appeal to all kinds of people, like any other medium.

I never see these losers from 4chan with Studio Ghibli or Satoshi Kon avatars, it's always stuff like Attack on Titan because it uses fascist imagery, K-ON because they're pedophiles or some really sh*tty anime I've never heard of that no one likes except for them for either of the previous two reasons.

~~jwb~~ · 05-19-2022, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx

Many Japanese I spoke to about race referred to other Asian races as ‘monkeys’ (猿のヒヒ) claiming themselves to be white. The only ‘whiteness’ I detected in Japan was the astonishingly high standard of performance of European classical music by Japanese orchestras. If they want to make that as part of their claim to being ‘white’ they’d better ignore the rise of European classical music in China, especially virtuoso pianists .

interesting... Don't they also hate white people in Japan though? I don't think they actually want to be white they probably just hate being associated with the swarthy Chinamen

~~jwb~~ · 05-19-2022, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Marie Monday

I think the argument goes more along the lines of 'we're the Master Race but we're in decline because of all the gay frogs and people with pink hair so Asians are superior now because of their good old-fashioned Order and Discipline and if only we would take their example we'd be on top again, thanks Obama'. Also, I think according to most fascists intelligence is useful but ultimately for soy boy intellectuals, not as glorious as Virile Strength. And many young fascists probably grew up with anime so that may also be a factor

Nah any modern race realist you talk to these days would much sooner rank the races by IQ rather than brute strength. I think it's pretty obvious why lol.

SGR · 05-19-2022, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo

I never see these losers from 4chan with Studio Ghibli...

Now while I'm not a big fan of anime, I'd consider Spirited Away to be a masterpiece.

Queen Boo · 05-19-2022, 01:07 PM

Yeah Ghibli has a much broader appeal than most anime, I know plenty of people who don't like anime other than Ghibli.

Miyazaki being left wing as f*ck kinda puts a dampen on his Nazi appeal though.

SGR · 05-19-2022, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo

Yeah Ghibli has a much broader appeal than most anime, I know plenty of people who don't like anime other than Ghibli.

Spirited Away specifically - the music, the stunning visuals, the engaging story, the world-building, it's all top notch. I saw it when I was younger (I think Cartoon Network/Toonami might have aired it?) so perhaps nostalgia has biased me, but has Ghibli released any other films on the level of Spirited Away? I tried My Neighbor Totoro once, but that didn't quite hit the mark for me.

The Batlord · 05-19-2022, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR

It's not made for children. At least not the majority of it. I know that much, and I don't even like anime. Much of it has over the top violence and not-so-subtle sexual suggestiveness.

Have you ever watched an anime?

I believe much of it doesn't cross the pond cause anime dweebs don't want the Japanese equivalent of Dora the Explorer, and while the age range of anime is broader than Western cartoons have historically been there's a lot less made for people older than young adult. Big3 is a simpleton obviously but he's not technically wrong.

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Originally Posted by SGR

Spirited Away specifically - the music, the stunning visuals, the engaging story, the world-building, it's all top notch. I saw it when I was younger (I think Cartoon Network/Toonami might have aired it?) so perhaps nostalgia has biased me, but has Ghibli released any other films on the level of Spirited Away? I tried My Neighbor Totoro once, but that didn't quite hit the mark for me.

Princess Mononoke is the one to challenge Spirited Away but I'm also partial to Castle in the Sky.

SGR · 05-19-2022, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I believe much of it doesn't cross the pond cause anime dweebs don't want the Japanese equivalent of Dora the Explorer, and while the age range of anime is broader than Western cartoons have historically been there's a lot less made for people older than young adult. Big3 is a simpleton obviously but he's not technically wrong.

Yeah, I was going off what I've seen hit the western market. I know nothing about what anime are specifically popular in Japan among any demographic, much less the younger demographic. That said, I would make a distinction between children and young adult. While a show like DBZ or Naruto can be consumed and enjoyed by young adults, it can't really so much by children (the target demographic of shows like Dora the Explorer or The Wiggles). When it comes to anime that's popular in the west, I can't think of any made for children specifically.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Princess Mononoke is the one to challenge Spirited Away but I'm also partial to Castle in the Sky.

I'll check them out. Not sure if there's a great place to stream those in HD - so I might just pick up the blurays if they're not too expensive. I've had my eyes on a Ghibli blu-ray boxset, but the price has never been right for me (it's been sitting in my Amazon wishlist).

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Originally Posted by jwb

interesting... Don't they also hate white people in Japan though? I don't think they actually want to be white they probably just hate being associated with the swarthy Chinamen

Not sure about that, but I do know that many Chinese still hold a grudge against Japan for Nanking - who could blame them?

~~jwb~~ · 05-19-2022, 02:45 PM

I have made a few unsuccessful attempts to enjoy anime. I dunno why but it loses my attention really quickly. Probably cause it's created for Asian children, who have notoriously high IQs

My favorite version of anime fan is nerdy black guys who wear dragon ball z shirts.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	I have made a few unsuccessful attempts to enjoy anime. I dunno why but it loses my attention really quickly. Probably cause it's created for Asian children, who have notoriously high IQs My favorite version of anime fan is nerdy black guys who wear dragon ball z shirts.