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Old 09-01-2021, 01:18 PM   #9391 (permalink)
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Some of that money at least went back into the US economy through wages to military personell, the buying of services and equipment from US based providers etc. but maybe less than you'd like.

In loss vs. gains, it seems pretty bad.
**** army economy


It won't go back to the "standard citizen", but to the "general making a new campaign"
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Old 09-01-2021, 04:10 PM   #9392 (permalink)
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It won't go back to the "standard citizen", but to the "general making a new campaign"
Specifically the general who retired after being in charge of Afghanistan who then took a job with Raytheon and is now Secretary of Defense.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 09-02-2021, 01:53 PM   #9393 (permalink)
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Specifically the general who retired after being in charge of Afghanistan who then took a job with Raytheon and is now Secretary of Defense.
Now that's a plot twist
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:23 PM   #9394 (permalink)
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Now that's a plot twist
Sadly it's how America works.
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Old 09-02-2021, 02:31 PM   #9395 (permalink)
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Beware of the Military-Industrial-Government-Media complex.
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Beware of the Military-Industrial-Government-Media complex.
You know I normally find the whole "the media is corrupt!" line so eye-rolling, but holy **** have they been nakedly open about getting defense contractors' money.

The number of forlorn journalists I used to like - Richard Engle - just saying how terrible the US is for leaving...I'm sitting here thinking "Bruh, your kids are going to see this, do you want them to think you have any integrity?
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So you're admitting you were wrong about the media not being useless establishment shills?
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So you're admitting you were wrong about the media not being useless establishment shills?
I don't know if I've ever been wrong.
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Old 09-02-2021, 07:29 PM   #9399 (permalink)
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I don't know if I've ever been wrong.
That is such a bitchf*ck answer that I have to give props but I still need a real answer.
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Old 09-02-2021, 09:57 PM   #9400 (permalink)
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I mean, you're asking me to agree to a always/never statement. I think people who complain about the media always are like "dId yOu hEaR hEr tOnE oN tHaT sTaTeMeNt?!?!? sHe'S a cOrpOrAte sHiLl!!!!"

You'd have to explain to me what tank you thought the media was in. But this unified "The withdrawral is a disaster!" - pulling in veterans and people from both sides of the aisle - in the face of 70% approval rates is just so obvious its mind blowing.

As for them being Establishment, are you still a shill if you believe it? The problem with being Establishment is that the fringe wings usually can't give you policy answers. And for better or worse the Left-wing journalists are dying to show the right-wing voter how even handed they can be. That's not reporting what corporate America wants, it's asking how M4A is going to work when you've said nothing about regulating any of the U.S. food. And you can't have 39g Coca Colas and universal healthcare.
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