Political Discussions for "Adults"

Chula Vista · 09-30-2017, 11:21 AM

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"If I were the owner of the team and I knew that the name of my team — even if they've had a storied history — was offending a sizable group of people, I'd think about changing it." Obama said.

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President Trump on Sunday suggested fans boycott the National Football League until owners punish players who kneel in protest during the pregame national anthem, fueling and expanding a controversy that has raged since last season. “If NFL fans refuse to go to games until players stop disrespecting our Flag & Country, you will see change take place fast. Fire or suspend!”

See the difference?

I can't find any precedence because, well, something like this is UN-PRECEDENTED.

**Frownland** · 09-30-2017, 11:26 AM

So you can't establish that it's illegal. Got it.

This is what that legislation was borne from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Street_Project

Given that precedence because that's the way that law works, it would only be illegal if Trump said something like fans should boycott the NFL because it's full of Democrats because that would be acting solely on political affiliation.

You keep promising nails in the coffin, all I see is staples.

Trollheart · 09-30-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

we're gonna get that joke tax plan though p much inevitable

at the end of the day every other issue is a distraction compared to handing the rich a larger slice of the pie

are you guys ready for all the TRICKLE DOWN headed our way

Well, if you **** against a wall it's sure to trickle down, isn't it?

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-30-2017, 12:00 PM

Getting tense in Catalonia now. Police told to shut down the polling booths by 6am tomorrow, guys are occupying them now in advance so they can't be shut down tomorrow. Just seen a guy in a school being asked what they're doing by a reporter, "We're here to celebrate the start of autumn." "Nothing to do with the referendum then?" "No."

Catalan referendum: Activists occupy school ahead of vote - BBC News

Seems like there will be trouble tomorrow. Surely it would be better to allow the referendum but make it clear it's not legally binding.

The Batlord · 09-30-2017, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

we're gonna get that joke tax plan though p much inevitable

at the end of the day every other issue is a distraction compared to handing the rich a larger slice of the pie

are you guys ready for all the TRICKLE DOWN headed our way

I will trickle down Trump's insufficient chin.

Chula Vista · 09-30-2017, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You keep promising nails in the coffin.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

This might apply.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

See the difference?

Not gonna fall into your stupid debate-bait traps anymore Frowny.

So, how do you feel about Trump bashing Puerto Rico this morning to deflect critisism away from his ego?

**Frownland** · 09-30-2017, 12:17 PM

I'm not really disagreeing with you dude, I'm just trying to go deeper.

And of course I think it's incredibly unethical and typical of him.

Trollheart · 09-30-2017, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey

Getting tense in Catalonia now. Police told to shut down the polling booths by 6am tomorrow, guys are occupying them now in advance so they can't be shut down tomorrow. Just seen a guy in a school being asked what they're doing by a reporter, "We're here to celebrate the start of autumn." "Nothing to do with the referendum then?" "No."

Catalan referendum: Activists occupy school ahead of vote - BBC News

Seems like there will be trouble tomorrow. Surely it would be better to allow the referendum but make it clear it's not legally binding.

And you just know any bloodshed is going to be blamed on the Catalans. "We told them, we warned them not to turn up. This was an illegal referendum. We can't be held responsible" etc etc et-****ing-cetera.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 09-30-2017, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

And you just know any bloodshed is going to be blamed on the Catalans. "We told them, we warned them not to turn up. This was an illegal referendum. We can't be held responsible" etc etc et-****ing-cetera.

You've got to feel for them tbh. Some of the lads I've seen on the articles doing interviews don't even necessarily want independence, just want to have a vote, and they're being silenced, which legitimises the independence movement and the idea that they don't have freedom.

I wonder what the lads in the Basque Country are thinking?

djchameleon · 09-30-2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

It's almost like the fact that DT isn't really a Republican nor a Democrat has ultimately isolated him politically to the extent where its impossible to get anything done.

Better luck in 2020 boyz n gurlz...though if you believe Michael Moore it looks like he's a two termer.

The Republicans still control the house and the senate and they can't get their non sense passed through. It has nothing to do with DT really.

09-30-2017, 11:26 AM	#902 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	So you can't establish that it's illegal. Got it. This is what that legislation was borne from. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K_Street_Project Given that precedence because that's the way that law works, it would only be illegal if Trump said something like fans should boycott the NFL because it's full of Democrats because that would be acting solely on political affiliation. You keep promising nails in the coffin, all I see is staples. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-30-2017, 12:00 PM	#904 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Getting tense in Catalonia now. Police told to shut down the polling booths by 6am tomorrow, guys are occupying them now in advance so they can't be shut down tomorrow. Just seen a guy in a school being asked what they're doing by a reporter, "We're here to celebrate the start of autumn." "Nothing to do with the referendum then?" "No." Catalan referendum: Activists occupy school ahead of vote - BBC News Seems like there will be trouble tomorrow. Surely it would be better to allow the referendum but make it clear it's not legally binding.

09-30-2017, 12:17 PM	#907 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I'm not really disagreeing with you dude, I'm just trying to go deeper. And of course I think it's incredibly unethical and typical of him.