Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 10-07-2020, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

This argument is hilarious. I'm too lazy to quote my references, but you guys are mad they're not hardcore defending policies they don't support. That's why you think she lost.

Also, if fracking and tax cuts below $400k is wonky, then so is H1N1. Who the **** remembers H1N1? No one, and no one gives a **** about it. Democrats should ignore those things, like they ignore packing the court - because no one is voting on that issue.

Healthcare, COVID, the Economy. Only three things you should be mentioning constantly.

You might be right. I’m happy to concede I’m an extreme minority politically

But as far as who lost... THE LEFT

We had the extreme right and the capitulation to the extreme right.

TheBig3 · 10-07-2020, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

yeah it kills me that Democrats can't convince these guys with utterly **** dangerous af cancer giving jobs that we can do better

By doing what? Being wonky?

You can't get them to look at jobs numbers until they stop attaching their balls to dangerous work.

OccultHawk · 10-07-2020, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they should be talking about packing the courts

I’d love that if she said **** yeah we’re gonna get as many liberal ****ers in there as possible. We’re gonna make it a crime not to have an abortion clinic at every worksite just like wheelchair ramps.

TheBig3 · 10-07-2020, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they don't know how to make the argument without coming across as coastal elitists

Bernie did

but I don't think coal miners want a job that gives them black lung

I think you don't know coal miners. There's a culture around it, their great great grandfathers did it. The one's who didn't want black lung left. The ones who got blacklung left, and the ones who got laid off left.

The remaining coal miners are just thankful to have a job. You can't tell them anything. You need to show them that it's a viable option in their area. Start with the unemployed. Debates are useless.

**Frownland** · 10-07-2020, 10:28 PM

"Why don't people with flooded houses in New Orleans just sell them and move somewhere nicer?"

OccultHawk · 10-07-2020, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

they don't know how to make the argument without coming across as coastal elitists

Bernie did

I don't think coal miners want a job that gives them black lung

With mountain top removal, strip mining, and fracking all those rural people in coal country are unemployed and up to their nuts in cancer and covid and diabetes and heart disease and pre-existings up the ass.

OccultHawk · 10-07-2020, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I think you don't know coal miners. There's a culture around it, their great great grandfathers did it. The one's who didn't want black lung left. The ones who got blacklung left, and the ones who got laid off left.

The remaining coal miners are just thankful to have a job. You can't tell them anything. You need to show them that it's a viable option in their area. Start with the unemployed. Debates are useless.

I have ****loads of relatives from coal-**** Kentucky. All they do there now is pop oxy and smoke meth. None of them left because they never had a ****ing dime. Not one of them mines coal any more.

TheBig3 · 10-07-2020, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

if they're going to go along accusing you anyway

and deep down we're all thinking it

There must be some sort of...third reason they don't say they're communists...jesus, who matters other than the people in the political parties?

TheBig3 · 10-07-2020, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I have ****loads of relatives from coal-**** Kentucky. All they do there now is pop oxy and smoke meth. None of them left because they never had a ****ing dime. Not one of them mines coal any more.

How's this disprove what I said? Or make the case that Kamala should have given a full-throated endorsement of the GND?

TheBig3 · 10-07-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

just imagine what VP Bernie would have done to Pence

I don't know, why don't you finish the fanfic blog post

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