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TheBig3 · 09-24-2020, 08:37 AM

The one upshot to having Bernie as the nominee would have been his army of the unhinged. I mean one of them already shot some Congressman.

SGR · 09-24-2020, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

The one upshot to having Bernie as the nominee would have been his army of the unhinged. I mean one of them already shot some Congressman.

Instead, Biden is the nominee and Bernie's "army of the unhinged" are out in the streets doing their best to help Trump get re-elected.

**Frownland** · 09-24-2020, 10:31 AM

TheBig3 · 09-24-2020, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

Instead, Biden is the nominee and Bernie's "army of the unhinged" are out in the streets doing their best to help Trump get re-elected.

Yeah, I don't know about that. There are absolutely some idiotic (mostly rich white kids) people who think anything short of aggressive protest is complicity with some -archy. And those of us who think that might not be a smart idea is too much of a sheep to understand.

But that isn't the majority of anyone camp, and I also think these are the same kind of people who say things like "wElL iF yOu lOoK aT eUrOpE, bErNiE iS a cEnTriSt!!!!"

**Frownland** · 09-24-2020, 11:03 AM

The idea is that he's a moderate in the context of European politics, not a centrist.

OccultHawk · 09-24-2020, 11:06 AM

I think Hitler should’ve only killed 3 million Jews.

**Frownland** · 09-24-2020, 11:13 AM

Centrism would've gotten the slaves counted as half a person, but instead we gave them a whole 3/5s of personhood. See? Radicalism works.

TheBig3 · 09-24-2020, 12:08 PM

The idea that Centrism exists at the median between two opposing ideologies... that's only a belief you can hold if you don't think about it at all. Which isn't shocking, anyone on the political fringe believes whole-cloth things they agree with while simultaneously thinking they're objective.

But here, let me think for you: What would a person who did what you think Centrism is have for an ideology? Math? Would they quantify positions of all ideologies and make a spreadsheet to discover their positions?

Politics isn't like that. People aren't like that. For a bunch of music fans the emotional intelligence here is in short supply.

OccultHawk · 09-24-2020, 12:24 PM

Nothing and nobody is objective.

**Frownland** · 09-24-2020, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

The idea that Centrism exists at the median between two opposing ideologies... that's only a belief you can hold if you don't think about it at all. Which isn't shocking, anyone on the political fringe believes whole-cloth things they agree with while simultaneously thinking they're objective.

But here, let me think for you: What would a person who did what you think Centrism is have for an ideology? Math? Would they quantify positions of all ideologies and make a spreadsheet to discover their positions?

Politics isn't like that. People aren't like that. For a bunch of music fans the emotional intelligence here is in short supply.

Thanks for doing the thinking for me. I thought that my concept of centrism was pretty different from what you describe here but I guess you know best. You should work for Slate.

How do you define centrism and answer the question of how centrists form their "ideology"?

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09-24-2020, 11:13 AM	#8357 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Centrism would've gotten the slaves counted as half a person, but instead we gave them a whole 3/5s of personhood. See? Radicalism works. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

09-24-2020, 12:08 PM	#8358 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	The idea that Centrism exists at the median between two opposing ideologies... that's only a belief you can hold if you don't think about it at all. Which isn't shocking, anyone on the political fringe believes whole-cloth things they agree with while simultaneously thinking they're objective. But here, let me think for you: What would a person who did what you think Centrism is have for an ideology? Math? Would they quantify positions of all ideologies and make a spreadsheet to discover their positions? Politics isn't like that. People aren't like that. For a bunch of music fans the emotional intelligence here is in short supply. __________________ I've moved to a new address

09-24-2020, 12:24 PM	#8359 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	Nothing and nobody is objective. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html