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TheBig3 09-24-2020 07:37 AM

The one upshot to having Bernie as the nominee would have been his army of the unhinged. I mean one of them already shot some Congressman.

SGR 09-24-2020 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2136645)
The one upshot to having Bernie as the nominee would have been his army of the unhinged. I mean one of them already shot some Congressman.

Instead, Biden is the nominee and Bernie's "army of the unhinged" are out in the streets doing their best to help Trump get re-elected.

Frownland 09-24-2020 09:31 AM

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TheBig3 09-24-2020 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks (Post 2136653)
Instead, Biden is the nominee and Bernie's "army of the unhinged" are out in the streets doing their best to help Trump get re-elected.

Yeah, I don't know about that. There are absolutely some idiotic (mostly rich white kids) people who think anything short of aggressive protest is complicity with some -archy. And those of us who think that might not be a smart idea is too much of a sheep to understand.

But that isn't the majority of anyone camp, and I also think these are the same kind of people who say things like "wElL iF yOu lOoK aT eUrOpE, bErNiE iS a cEnTriSt!!!!"

Frownland 09-24-2020 10:03 AM

The idea is that he's a moderate in the context of European politics, not a centrist.

OccultHawk 09-24-2020 10:06 AM

I think Hitler should’ve only killed 3 million Jews.

Frownland 09-24-2020 10:13 AM

Centrism would've gotten the slaves counted as half a person, but instead we gave them a whole 3/5s of personhood. See? Radicalism works.

TheBig3 09-24-2020 11:08 AM

The idea that Centrism exists at the median between two opposing ideologies... that's only a belief you can hold if you don't think about it at all. Which isn't shocking, anyone on the political fringe believes whole-cloth things they agree with while simultaneously thinking they're objective.

But here, let me think for you: What would a person who did what you think Centrism is have for an ideology? Math? Would they quantify positions of all ideologies and make a spreadsheet to discover their positions?

Politics isn't like that. People aren't like that. For a bunch of music fans the emotional intelligence here is in short supply.

OccultHawk 09-24-2020 11:24 AM

Nothing and nobody is objective.

Frownland 09-24-2020 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2136667)
The idea that Centrism exists at the median between two opposing ideologies... that's only a belief you can hold if you don't think about it at all. Which isn't shocking, anyone on the political fringe believes whole-cloth things they agree with while simultaneously thinking they're objective.

But here, let me think for you: What would a person who did what you think Centrism is have for an ideology? Math? Would they quantify positions of all ideologies and make a spreadsheet to discover their positions?

Politics isn't like that. People aren't like that. For a bunch of music fans the emotional intelligence here is in short supply.

Thanks for doing the thinking for me. I thought that my concept of centrism was pretty different from what you describe here but I guess you know best. You should work for Slate.

How do you define centrism and answer the question of how centrists form their "ideology"?


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