Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 09-29-2020, 04:57 PM

Lol@ Neo calling me a Jew. You going full Nazi, pal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by OccultHawk

ok

PM me when I don’t have to pay to see a doctor then

And be sure to tell the blacks that they’re free. They’ll be glad to hear it I’m sure

again more equivocating.i specifically said chattel slavery because I knew you would pull that crap. Stop looking for loopholes and actually address a point for once.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor

idk that "lawlessness and disorder" are inherently bad and hell yeah give me some of dat Civil Unrest but ya know PUNK ROCKK

tbh this is a sheltered whiteboy take. Not sure if you're being ironic though.

I don't see many violently unstable countries that I would actually want to live in personally.

OccultHawk · 09-29-2020, 05:01 PM

I addressed the goddamn point

~~jwb~~ · 09-29-2020, 05:35 PM

Nope

~~jwb~~ · 09-29-2020, 06:46 PM

It's not like I don't get that impulse, but you want that as the permanent state of things or as a temporary mechanism to exert change?

Cause I can see the latter but not the former. But the latter also means that eventually a monopoly of force will once again ossify. See the civil war, for a perfect example of a temporary situation where the monopoly of force devolves into multiple competing sources of force. In the case if the American civil war, though it cost a lot of lives, there was a generally positive change made as a result.

But for a counter example take the current Syrian civil war. There's no telling how it will eventually end but based on current trends it seems like a recipe for potentially perpetual conflict and instability with no real silver lining at the end of it all.

OccultHawk · 09-30-2020, 02:43 PM

How do we do it in the panopticon?

~~jwb~~ · 09-30-2020, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphenor

any truly free society should have a fair bit of unrest and deviancy

it doesn't need to be failed state level

be more specific... What's an example of the kind of unrest you think should be perpetual that challenges the actual monopoly on violence that the state has.

OccultHawk · 10-01-2020, 01:17 PM

I know this is same old same old but the level of racist vitriol in crowd form still startles and frightens me when I see it. It’s horrifying that this isn’t horrifying.

The Batlord · 10-01-2020, 07:54 PM

Make Megan Thee Stallion the host and I might care.

~~jwb~~ · 10-01-2020, 08:14 PM

That's still ambiguous and still contingent to a particular temporary circumstance.

You're saying what? Targeted assassination? Indiscriminate bombings? What's your poison? And what inspires you to end your terror campaign, if anything?

Lucem Ferre · 10-01-2020, 08:16 PM

Pull out the guillotines.

09-29-2020, 05:01 PM	#7872 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I addressed the goddamn point __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

09-30-2020, 02:43 PM	#7875 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	How do we do it in the panopticon? __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

10-01-2020, 01:17 PM	#7877 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I know this is same old same old but the level of racist vitriol in crowd form still startles and frightens me when I see it. It’s horrifying that this isn’t horrifying. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

09-29-2020, 05:35 PM	#7873 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Nope

09-29-2020, 06:46 PM	#7874 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	It's not like I don't get that impulse, but you want that as the permanent state of things or as a temporary mechanism to exert change? Cause I can see the latter but not the former. But the latter also means that eventually a monopoly of force will once again ossify. See the civil war, for a perfect example of a temporary situation where the monopoly of force devolves into multiple competing sources of force. In the case if the American civil war, though it cost a lot of lives, there was a generally positive change made as a result. But for a counter example take the current Syrian civil war. There's no telling how it will eventually end but based on current trends it seems like a recipe for potentially perpetual conflict and instability with no real silver lining at the end of it all.

10-01-2020, 08:14 PM	#7879 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	That's still ambiguous and still contingent to a particular temporary circumstance. You're saying what? Targeted assassination? Indiscriminate bombings? What's your poison? And what inspires you to end your terror campaign, if anything?