Political Discussions for "Adults"

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Sometimes you agree to the red magic, and you kill your brother if it means justice.

I'm still hoping they make her Treasury Sec.

that dumb c*nt was better off dropping out and endorsing Bernie

She'd have a better shot at a role in Biden's admin if the progressive left still backed her the way they did/would have

TheBig3 · 08-22-2020, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

that dumb c*nt was better off dropping out and endorsing Bernie

She'd have a better shot at a role in Biden's admin if there progressive left still backed her the way they did/would have

Yeah I mean you're probably right. Her hedged bet just made everyone hate her. I wasn't thrilled with any of them and realized that I'd just vote for whoever won the general (except for Tulsi). So I didn't overthink it too much. And she's the home stater.

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

It's not dishonest, I see him as thinking my willingness to work with the reality on the ground is somehow beneath his. I think the same thing of you.

I've worked on three campaigns in my life. I work for a clean energy group now that lobbies against utilities, fossil fuels, and for things like rate-payer funded solar farms, emissions taxes, and the elemination of peaker plants.

I work within the framework that is. I don't hope for a reality that isn't. I don't assume I matter in the grand scheme of things. It takes groups to come together and push for things. But I'm not going to not vote just because Biden isn't the candidate I want. I vote for Biden, I go back to asking for what I want, in the areas I think are important.

If you don't like that, I guess I'll just have to lose some sleep over it.

Come on though do you not see corporate money as a hurdle you simply can not overcome? They can literally pay people to muddy the waters so that the hoi polloi don't know who to believe and if they don't know what to believe they'll just go with whatever option keeps the status quo they're comfortable with going.

Honestly the only reasonable option is probably waiting until global warming destroys the economy and devastates populations, and then forming a coalition of the working class who finally have no choice whatsoever but to accept that the neoliberal world order was intentionally operating in such a way that they would maximize profits at the expense of essentially the apocalypse that is now destroying the populace's way of life before their very eyes.

I simply do not see any option where we minimize losses and everything just kinda works out, and I definitely don't see an option where the working classes wake up before the worst happens. And the end result will probably be a dark age of guillotines and chaos.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 07:55 PM

Why is Tulsi not worth voting for against Trump but Biden is?

Anteater · 08-22-2020, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Come on though do you not see corporate money as a hurdle you simply can not overcome? They can literally pay people to muddy the waters so that the hoi polloi don't know who to believe and if they don't know what to believe they'll just go with whatever option keeps the status quo they're comfortable with going.

Honestly the only reasonable option is probably waiting until global warming destroys the economy and devastates populations, and then forming a coalition of the working class who finally have no choice whatsoever but to accept that the neoliberal world order was intentionally operating in such a way that they would maximize profits at the expense of essentially the apocalypse that is now destroying the populace's way of life before their very eyes.

I simply do not see any option where we minimize losses and everything just kinda works out, and I definitely don't see an option where the working classes wake up before the worst happens. And the end result will probably be a dark age of guillotines and chaos.

We need a robot slave caste.

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

We need a robot slave caste.

Let's be honest, the rich will be the ones financing the robot slave caste and as such will deny the poor any of their benefits and demand that the working class pull their weight alongside the robots or starve.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

he considered "lesser evil" electoral politics as helpful in being able to recruit so he could do this

be more specific

**Frownland** · 08-22-2020, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I don't know if I've ever seen you take a position on anything. Unless you count ****ting on others positions as taking a stand.

What three things could a candidate say to get your vote?

I'm not too worried about it, not like I'm running for office. I think it's more interesting if you assume that I have the same opinions as your annoying progressive niece or whatever

The words of public officals are empty but if they meant it, it'd be cool if they said:

Entirely remove the influence of the federal government from people's lives at home and abroad in order to bring any necessary forms of public institution closer to home which will make accountability more realistic
Impose consistent corruption standards with hardline penalties on public officials, with trials run by the EU or another foreign entity
Smoke weed erryday

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

even all the reforms that you'd want for a multi-party system would only be supported by Democrats

lolwut the democrats would oppose all that with fire and brimstone

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 08:02 PM

Not sure if that's a response to me but I mean be more specific about Lenin.

08-22-2020, 07:55 PM	#7874 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Why is Tulsi not worth voting for against Trump but Biden is?

08-22-2020, 08:02 PM	#7880 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Not sure if that's a response to me but I mean be more specific about Lenin.