Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I hope it's him voting for himself, I didn't mean it as evidence for my point, I just thought it was funny

Yeah. I’ll admit you got the best of that one.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Marx would probably be incredibly impressed with the current Democratic platform

it's more left wing than he could have imagined could exist alongside capitalism

Holy ****. Even Marx had no idea the environmental devastation capitalism was going to inflict on the planet. You think he would look at America and say look how liberated America is that they can put the name of their favorite capitalist in a box?

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm advocating for voting for Biden if you're in a swing state

I may or may not bother myself, I live in Texas

And yet you also stan for centrists like Hillary Clinton while bitching about voting. You're a club joiner. You want to join the punk club and you want to join the political winner club so you identify with people who can reliably win. You will become Chula in ten years. Guarantee it. Or maybe I'm wrong. You might have to have a mortgage to be that far down the Democrat rabbithole.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm advocating for voting for Biden if you're in a swing state

I may or may not bother myself, I live in Texas

If any state is decided by one vote I’ll mail you my entire music collection.

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

If any state is decided by one vote I’ll mail you my entire music collection.

You just want the free space.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

what is the act of voting so strenuous you have to sit out political action for 4 years?

Yea it's actually needlessly strenuous considering that the returns for doing so approach zero

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 05:34 PM

You know all this just isn't the same without Chula. Trollheart was the lynchpin for music discussion and Chula was the same for political scrums.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

And yet you also stan for centrists like Hillary Clinton while bitching about voting. You're a club joiner. You want to join the punk club and you want to join the political winner club so you identify with people who can reliably win. You will become Chula in ten years. Guarantee it. Or maybe I'm wrong. You might have to have a mortgage to be that far down the Democrat rabbithole.

I used to think he was going to be a Republican.

The thing is though his entire generation has already been tossed in the trash. They’re likely to become more and more radical as the permanency of their poverty and disenfranchisement becomes more apparent.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 05:38 PM

Honestly all politics aside... There is no rational reason for thinking your vote will ever make a difference.

It all relies on group patterns and trends. You don't cast a ballot for your group though. It's just doing so and hoping blindly others will do the same. But they make their decision independent of yours. So your decision has very nearly zero chance of having any impact.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 05:42 PM

Yes. It's inherent to the system and it's my go to rationalization for not voting when the reality is I'm just lazy apathetic and can't be bothered.

I'm just as likely to pretend to vote for Bernie as I am to actually vote for him.

08-22-2020, 05:38 PM	#7819 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Honestly all politics aside... There is no rational reason for thinking your vote will ever make a difference. It all relies on group patterns and trends. You don't cast a ballot for your group though. It's just doing so and hoping blindly others will do the same. But they make their decision independent of yours. So your decision has very nearly zero chance of having any impact.

08-22-2020, 05:42 PM	#7820 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Yes. It's inherent to the system and it's my go to rationalization for not voting when the reality is I'm just lazy apathetic and can't be bothered. I'm just as likely to pretend to vote for Bernie as I am to actually vote for him.