Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Bull**** it doesn't.

And it's because we aren't a petty fascist monolith who's sole goal is to stick it to the republicans. We have values and standards. While some of us are willing to sacrifice it in the name of the same petty game the fascists are playing, others aren't. And some just simply think universal health care is too far left despite it being hardly a nudge that way. We're just such a capitalist right wing **** tank that anything resembling a left leaning idea is thought of as communism or extreme. Bernie Sanders being considered far left is kind of laughable but they think Obama and the conservative ass Clintons are far left too.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by TheBig3

More about the concept of the working class getting sold out and gutted by the higher ups, I would have guessed would have been a welcome position.

Who knows, maybe I'm projecting, but the biggest gripe I have with the DNC, and the area I'm probably more aligned with the DSA on is the wild over financialization of the US. The Ivy Grads getting a degree in space aeronautics and working at McKinsey, every company regardless of sector offering you a credit card, the leveraged-buyout apocalypse putting people out of work.

I guess I was wrong. Oh well.

Originally Posted by The Batlord

Oh hey what's going on over where you are about the DA charging protesters as a gang and potentially giving them life in prison? You planning on burning the city down or something?

Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

No. I don't want a life sentence.

Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien

There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.

Originally Posted by jwb

Once again that's not wrong it's just not some unique DSA talking point. It's the kind of thing that is so popularly held as self evident that even the politicians who might not sympathize with it deep down still feel the need to pay lip service to it.

Originally Posted by Frownland

That's because centrism is more about maintaining the status quo than any actual ideology, which often leads to putting one's head in the sand.