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Reminds me of 2000, simpler times. And Cheney has 27 times the heart she does.

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The Batlord

Most of it was removed though.

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TheBig3

I get that it's not for everyone. But I do wonder how many DSA members (who never listened to him before) would react to Bannon saying a lot of things that they wouldn't disagree with.

If not this, American Dharma was also a great interview with him. I saw it in Cambridge and the Director spoke afterward. It was a great interview and the Q&A was wild.

The New York Times is not Fivethirtyeight. I trust nothing all the time but Nate Silver said throughout the Summer of 2016 the polling was trash, that it was not easy to predict, but also that polls showing Trump way behind as being unfounded.

Actually lol'd. Well said.

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jwb

Yes but by all accounts the pro Biden vote is riding on the back of anti Trump sentiment. I don't think his odds have much of anything to do with him, his policies or his running mate. If the coronavirus or the economic situation somehow turned around before the election you won't see those kinds of odds.

As opposed to what? There's nobody he was seriously considering who was not a moderate.

it wasn't looking great for him before SC but that was actually surprising considering his front runner status before the primaries. It was pretty surprising to see him not even get 3rd place. That was just a really poor showing on his part.

I don't believe it's going to be the older black people in SC who according to you don't have Twitter who will make the difference for him in the general election, obviously. Like I said I believe fundamentally it will depend on Trump and the current state of things. Biden could've selected Warren or even Sanders as a running mate and still won under the current conditions. He had no interest in doing so. He said flat out he would veto M4A even if it passed Congress.

TheBig3

No, you're right. I think Biden would be up but not by a lot over Trump without Covid. Biden doesn't electrify people. He's the guy this year because he represents stability. Thats about it.

And I think the Kamala=Win comment has more to do with looking at the numbers, rather than her being a moderate. Who did he need to win? Where is he vulnerable? What would unite the party? I don't think he's ever going to get the DSA crowd so you can't factor them in. That's why he sucked out all that woman's blackness a few pages back.

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Frownland

Seems like you already have a good concept of what it would be like. What kind of reaction did you have in mind from that group?

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jwb

Like what specifically?

The only overlap I've ever heard is a generic distaste for the Davos elites and some protectionist oriented trade policies. But I can't say I'm that familiar with him

TheBig3

Yeah, but I'm not interested in my own reaction. I want to know where the gap between is.

Well to make it more digestible, PBS walks through chronologically so you get the ethos in the first 20 mins. But I'd rather hear what people think than just give my opinion. I like mixing it up.

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Frownland

That's why I asked about your concept of how dsa members would react to "agreeing" with Bannon.

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TheBig3

I'm guessing it's not as wide as either side would think. But I suppose thats what I was hoping to find out.

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