Political Discussions for "Adults"

WWWP · 08-12-2020, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I think you're giving her more credit than she deserves. Her campaign didn't lack enthusiasm because she didn't have progressive credentials, it's because she really didn't have any ideas. The two policy positions I saw her take where the "Yes M4A...wait no, people apparently don't like that." and her "debt forgiveness plan" which was so bad I thought it was for free points on a credit card.

I don't think she aspires to be AOC. I think she's far more calculating than that. AOC is one of the few people I feel like actually fights back when people attack her position. Kamalas positions are generally scraped clean of substance as to make them less objectionable.

Absolutely agree. I compare her to AOC more in the sense that Kamala is very good at dealing with the media, even when she's in hot water she'll muster some kind of articulate answer (maybe my standards are just that low after 4 years of 45). I see Kamala wanting to be in the headlines all the time like AOC is. But she doesn't have the charisma or the passion. She comes off like a Karen who's been proven wrong but refuses to admit it - you know, lots of scoffing and moving of goalposts. Shows exasperation toward their opponent as if they aren't themselves floundering. Etc.

^ That meme is great. All this time sustaining protests and actions against the police and the DNC gives us a cop and someone who wants to lock up anarchists. Smdh.

~~jwb~~ · 08-12-2020, 04:15 PM

Tbh I don't really care about Kamala being the VP. She's no worse and no better than the other options that were being considered imo.

Like Big3 alluded to she's just a soulless pragmatist with no strong distinct principles or beliefs, somewhat similar to Biden in that regard.

Psy-Fi · 08-12-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundgardenRocks

You all must admit, despite the displeasure with the VP pick of Harris, it's been great for the memes.

Is that Bernie Sanders getting hauled away?

WWWP · 08-12-2020, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Tbh I don't really care about Kamala being the VP. She's no worse and no better than the other options that were being considered imo.

Like Big3 alluded to she's just a soulless pragmatist with no strong distinct principles or beliefs, somewhat similar to Biden in that regard.

I'm not heated about it or anything, I wouldn't have been excited about anyone. It's such a meaningless position. I keep seeing headlines saying Kamala will be the "most powerful VP ever" and it's just like... ???? How can that be if Trump's re-election has just been sealed?

debaserr · 08-12-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Psy-Fi

Is that Bernie Sanders getting hauled away?

Yea that's an old pic of Bernie.

TheBig3 · 08-12-2020, 04:39 PM

No VP will be stronger than Dick Cheney in my lifetime. Because we won't have someone as maleable as Bush again on the Republican side, and the Democrats have too much infighting for such a power vacuum to exist.

I don't mind a soulless pragmatist if I think they're moving in the right direction. Clinton was a soulles pragmatist but I felt like she'd been fighting the good fight for so many years I had a sense of what she might do. That and my mother had been trying to vote for Clinton since 1993 when she worked on Healthcare.

Kamala to me seems like someone who doesn't have a reason to want power, just the want. I'm glad she's on the ticket because A. she makes it much harder to make claims about Biden/Harris being the "radical left" and because B. as we've said the VP won't be the main opperator here. It's Pelosi that runs the party for now, and I'm hoping to see a Warren, Castro, and Booker cabinet. I guess we'll see.

Lucem Ferre · 08-12-2020, 04:53 PM

I'm sick of getting off center candidates that are supposed to represent the left leaning views to appeal to the right. It's selling out the left to the right. That started with the economy destroying, minority caging blue tied conservative piece of shit Bill Clinton. Selling out what was supposed to be the left leaning party to appeal to the right. Now we just got a right leaning party and a centered party then a bunch of independents that nobody will vote for because we gots ta beat the right. Congrats on spitting on the people you're supposed to represent again, Democrats.

This country really hates the left.

**Frownland** · 08-12-2020, 04:58 PM

But if the dnc does the right thing instead of saying that they'll vaguely moving in the direction of the right thing on the pamphlet, they'll be the far left and that's BAD!

If you were mature enough to read thinkpieces you'd get it.

Neapolitan · 08-12-2020, 05:03 PM

WWWP · 08-12-2020, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

If you were mature enough to read thinkpieces you'd get it.

Lol

08-12-2020, 04:39 PM	#7476 (permalink)
TheBig3 killedmyraindog Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 11,172	No VP will be stronger than Dick Cheney in my lifetime. Because we won't have someone as maleable as Bush again on the Republican side, and the Democrats have too much infighting for such a power vacuum to exist. I don't mind a soulless pragmatist if I think they're moving in the right direction. Clinton was a soulles pragmatist but I felt like she'd been fighting the good fight for so many years I had a sense of what she might do. That and my mother had been trying to vote for Clinton since 1993 when she worked on Healthcare. Kamala to me seems like someone who doesn't have a reason to want power, just the want. I'm glad she's on the ticket because A. she makes it much harder to make claims about Biden/Harris being the "radical left" and because B. as we've said the VP won't be the main opperator here. It's Pelosi that runs the party for now, and I'm hoping to see a Warren, Castro, and Booker cabinet. I guess we'll see. __________________ I've moved to a new address

08-12-2020, 04:58 PM	#7478 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	But if the dnc does the right thing instead of saying that they'll vaguely moving in the direction of the right thing on the pamphlet, they'll be the far left and that's BAD! If you were mature enough to read thinkpieces you'd get it. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

08-12-2020, 04:15 PM	#7472 (permalink)
~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Tbh I don't really care about Kamala being the VP. She's no worse and no better than the other options that were being considered imo. Like Big3 alluded to she's just a soulless pragmatist with no strong distinct principles or beliefs, somewhat similar to Biden in that regard.