Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

it doesn't make any statement

The very clear statement made by everyone who votes is that they believe voting is a worthwhile endeavor. You wouldn’t be voting if you didn’t buy into the process.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 04:08 PM

Voting does work... Even in our limited democracy. It's not voting that is the real problem. It's the voters. That's why democracy is gay.

SGR · 08-22-2020, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

lol styxhexenhammer, I just posted a pic of that guy in the Discord as an example of how the "punk" look can go horribly wrong

what is with these literal old school Nazis now wearing Christian Death shirts and leather jackets, and not pulling it off at all on top of it

cringe man!

(Destiny is fine)

I don't give two ****s how he dresses or how bad his fashion sense is. Vaush has been known to wear his hair in a bun and I don't give a **** about that either. Yeah, Styx has got some bad takes. But I enjoy hearing a breadth of views on multiple topics. It's given me different approaches on different issues, which makes it difficult for me to label myself politically.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 04:10 PM

My friend is a big fan of Styx. Seems like a goth ***got to me.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't know if there even is an oft cited communist anywhere that didn't recognize the importance of electoral politics or "lesser evil" strategy

Mao

SGR · 08-22-2020, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

My friend is a big fan of Styx. Seems like a goth ***got to me.

Nah, he's a hippie ***got. Let the dude plant his garden, smoke his weed, and pet his cats in peace.

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I wouldn't except it's cultural appropriation

Nazi punks **** OFF!!!!

he reminds me of Razorfist, but wayyyy less articulate, and at least that Nazi (or maybe just fascist) is totes all Metal and **** bro

My eyes glaze over every time a leftist calls people on the right nazis. There's no meaning to the word anymore.

The Batlord · 08-22-2020, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't know if there even is an oft cited communist anywhere that didn't recognize the importance of electoral politics or "lesser evil" strategy

I wonder if Marx would still say that if he knew we'd be here a century and a half later.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb

Voting does work... Even in our limited democracy. It's not voting that is the real problem. It's the voters. That's why democracy is gay.

They say America has the oldest democracy still running. Interesting that it was the first country to become an existential threat to all of humanity.

~~jwb~~ · 08-22-2020, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't know if there even is an oft cited communist anywhere that didn't recognize the importance of electoral politics or "lesser evil" strategy

From what I remember teasing this was actually am issue of contention in socialist parties in earlier days. Socialist parties in Europe that existed in more liberal and less repressive regimes were much more likely to want to work within the system and thus less radical. Ones that lived in more repressive regimes were more radical and unwilling to even entertain the idea of working with the government and more bent on revolution.

I think that's part of why the revolution never came in Western industrialized countries, only repressive backwaters like Russia, China etc. Despite the fact that Marx predicted it starting in countries more like France, Germany and England.

OccultHawk · 08-22-2020, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I wonder if Marx would still say that if he knew we'd be here a century and a half later.

I wonder if MLK would have advocated non-violence if he could’ve seen a half century into the future.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	Voting does work... Even in our limited democracy. It's not voting that is the real problem. It's the voters. That's why democracy is gay.

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~~jwb~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2019 Posts: 4,403	My friend is a big fan of Styx. Seems like a goth ***got to me.