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Old 07-28-2020, 09:55 AM   #7031 (permalink)
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Comparing a governor race to the presidential race is probably not even useful.
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Old 07-28-2020, 09:56 AM   #7032 (permalink)
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I lived in San Diego and thought it was the brodude capitol of the world except for Hillcrest

sick ass public transit tho
How many San Diego Chargers fans did you know?

I hope, for your sake, that you aren't one or rather, weren't one.

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Old 07-28-2020, 10:13 AM   #7033 (permalink)
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Maybe I just don't understand your point then. That there are conservatives in Cali?
That there are enough conservatives in CA to potentially flip the state. Not for Trump, just theoretically.

Schwarzenegger was terrible for CA, we're still recovering from the damage he did to our social programs. Of course governor vs presidential elections are different, I'm not comparing the two. I'm just saying that there are more than a few instances to point to that support my assertion that CA could absolutely flip for the right candidate.
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Old 07-28-2020, 10:14 AM   #7034 (permalink)
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In the last election, 4 of the 5 most populous counties in Texas voted blue (6 of 9 counties).

In the Primaries, Cruz beat Trump mercilessly and got over twice as many delegates and over 60% more popular votes. Overall, Trump won Texas by less than 9% and the shift in demographics in Texas is making it harder for the reds to rely on that same kind of outcome. Even if he hadn't ego-shitted on the pandemic response, we have a lot more Latinos (nearly half of the state) who tend to vote blue anyway and have eyes and ears when it comes to the GOPutrids take on "them brown people."

Just north of Dallas, we have two counties that have recently been voting red, but in the March primary, Bernie beat out the other Dems (incl. Biden) running in both of them, so that gives me some hope.

There are too many tiny buttlefuck counties to turn the state blue, I'm afraid (we have 254 in total), but if Biden doesn't hose it by 2024, we'll have a lot more Latinos and younger people here to give the election to AO-C in 2024.

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I lived in San Diego and thought it was the brodude capitol of the world except for Hillcrest

sick ass public transit tho
Like the family funded brand of dudebro?
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There are too many tiny buttlefuck counties to turn the state blue, I'm afraid (we have 254 in total), but if Biden doesn't hose it by 2024, we'll have a lot more Latinos and younger people here to give the election to AO-C in 2024.
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Michael Moore: Do Not Underestimate The Evil Genius That is Donald Trump

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"I want to caution everyone, do not underestimate the evil genius that is Donald J. Trump," Moore warned. "There are many examples throughout history, whether it's Henry V facing the French on Saint Crispin's Day, they outnumbered him 4 to 1 and he was supposed to lose and he didn't. And or jump ahead to the 1995 NBA playoffs [ed. 1994], the Knicks are ahead with 15 seconds left, way ahead of the Indiana Pacers, and Reggie Miller scores eight points in nine seconds. With 15 seconds left."

"We've been fooled by polls before. Listen, Trump has got a number of tricks up his sleeve to suppress the vote, to try to postpone the election, blaming the coronavirus, to any of the number of things where he will try to weasel his way out of this," Moore said of the election. "And our side, and Joe Biden -- Joe Biden, I think, you know, honestly, if I were advising him, I would tell him just to start running the country right now, just act as if you are the president. That means nobody can assume the election is over. Everybody's got to show up the vote and bring ten people with them."
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That there are enough conservatives in CA to potentially flip the state. Not for Trump, just theoretically.
Just doesn't seem particularly likely to me based on the past presidential election results. Beyond the fact that the Democrats have been consistently winning the state in every presidential race by a wide margin for years, this premise seems to suppose the Republicans would have to go much more moderate than they've shown the inclination to do so.
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