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rostasi · 07-22-2020, 10:16 PM

If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

Raime · 07-22-2020, 10:24 PM

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He’s really pushing it with these moves. Those feds are ****ing sorry ass bitch cowards hiding their identity and following unconstitutional orders.

It seems like there’s been a pretty big push toward a civil war or a full on police state. Or perhaps a legit coup d'etat.

Last I read Trump was backing off Chicago. I think if Chicago goes into a fed patrolled police state without real violent resistance (not just burning property) the rest of the country will fall like dominoes. If Chicago ends up in an uncontrollable violent quagmire that might inspire a general to gather some troops and take over the White House.

I know there’s Baltimore and Oakland and other places but I think Chicago is going to set the tone.

Baltimore has been pretty quiet, except for some statue destruction. I guarantee you that people in Baltimore city won't take **** from the Feds if they do show up.

Lucem Ferre · 07-22-2020, 10:38 PM

You know how many tards are jumping through hoops to justify this while bitching about masks being authoritarian? It's scary how dumb people are.

rostasi · 07-23-2020, 08:21 AM

How the American Idiot Made America a Failed State

rostasi · 07-23-2020, 08:36 AM

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You know how many tards are jumping through hoops to justify this while bitching about masks being authoritarian? It's scary how dumb people are.

I hear you. We were talking this morning about all of these people, during Obama, who were having screaming fits with all this fake shit about FEMA camps and your rights being taken away, etc. who seem to have no problem with actual authoritarian moves into major cities. Kinda connected to that: have you noticed that the very same people who crowed about how they were stocking up their cellars with ammo and food-stuffs so they could be ready for months, maybe years, of hunkering down - defending themselves against a government takeover - can’t take being inside their own homes for even just a week during a pandemic?

OccultHawk · 07-23-2020, 10:23 AM

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Baltimore has been pretty quiet, except for some statue destruction. I guarantee you that people in Baltimore city won't take **** from the Feds if they do show up.

What sort of action do you think the people of Baltimore would take?

~~jwb~~ · 07-23-2020, 10:44 AM

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If Communism Killed Millions, How Many Did Capitalism Kill?

This article is very underwhelming imo. It starts with a lazy historical analysis and ends with the utterly mundane conclusion that while both capitalism and communism have killed boatloads of people, it's "ideology" that is the true danger. The author also seemingly purports not to have any ideology of his own, while citing concepts like 'free will' as things that ideology threatens to undermine.

Here's my thoughts on the 100 million talking point. It's also too vague to be of much use. It's valid to point out the specific failures of regimes like the USSR and China. But generally speaking, only Marxist-Leninists still try to defend those regimes.

So pointing these deaths out is not a good defense of capitalism nor a good argument against all forms of socialism. But it's also not nearly the gotcha some leftists think it is to point out that more people have died under capitalism in the last 500 years than did in the course of a few decades worth of failed social experiments under Communist regimes.

Beyond the fact that scale and time frame explain a large part of the discrepancy, it also presents an implicit false dichotomy.

Mindy · 07-23-2020, 11:30 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3hgsAXbvWc

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Former Vice President Joe Biden is running for president to restore the soul of the nation. He believes it's time to remember who we are. We're Americans: tough and resilient. We choose hope over fear. Science over fiction. Truth over lies. And unity over division. We are the United States of America. And together, there is not a single thing we can't do.

OccultHawk · 07-23-2020, 11:33 AM

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it's "ideology" that is the true danger

A bird has a left wing and right wing but they’re both just for flapping. The bird brain is in the middle.

-Negativland

**Frownland** · 07-23-2020, 11:37 AM

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We're Americans: tough and resilient. We choose hope over fear. Science over fiction. Truth over lies. And unity over division.

lol keep tellin yourself that

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