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Old 08-06-2020, 10:07 AM   #6701 (permalink)
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So neoliberalism is the new anarcho-syndicalism and we’re supposed to double down on status quo capitalism to save the planet and organized human society. Got it Noam, keep getting your Boomer on.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:09 AM   #6702 (permalink)
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I suspect he's saying if you encourage voting for Biden because Trump is bad, you're a neolib.

Not sure how that works with Chomsky who's written extensively about anarcho-syndicalism, but that he and I share the same position on how to approach this election and deal with the aftermath is so....*chef's kiss*
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:28 AM   #6703 (permalink)
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I suspect he's saying if you encourage voting for Biden because Trump is bad, you're a neolib
That’s 100% correct. I’m surprised there’s any question about it. Biden is an old school corrupt af big business capitalist. Chomsky said the same sellout bs about Hillary.
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:33 AM   #6704 (permalink)
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That’s 100% correct. I’m surprised there’s any question about it. Biden is an old school corrupt af big business capitalist. Chomsky said the same sellout bs about Hillary.
I'm going to explain myself before I ask this question so I can tell myself I'm not pushing a rock up a hill.

When I see something like this, my brain just immediately goes "You should find out where the disconnect is here." And frankly, I hate that because all too often the Internet isn't discussing things in good faith. People are bored, they want a reaction because it provides more dopamine than a Facebook like. But I'm going to ask one last time, just in case this is the winning lottery ticket.

Biden is, in fact, an old school politician. And while I don't think he's as nefarious as Mitch McConnell, I do think he's carried the water for Credit Card companies that I think are bad-faith actors in the American government. So, sure, if that's corrupt to you then fine.

But this argument seems to suggest that Biden, fitting this definition of corrupt, will just be NeoLib Redux, so why vote for him? What I can't understand is how the party plays no role in this equation, the leftward moving forces in America will have no effect in this scenario, and how you can arrive at the conclusion that the POTUS is the be all/end all of public policy.

How does only the President matter in your political world view?
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Old 08-06-2020, 10:47 AM   #6705 (permalink)
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And frankly, I hate that because all too often the Internet isn't discussing things in good faith.
Totally agreed. I mean look at these examples from this very thread:

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Can we discuss the fact that you follow-up to most of my posts with an antagonisitic response frequently? I mean I get you're not good at debating and don't have any real positions that could be put into public policy, but this stalker activity is unprofessional and creepy.
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I guess one way to look at it is a vote for Biden isn't really a vote for Biden. It's a vote for whoever his VP is. She will inevitably do everything and take charge while they quietly wheel Joe off to Sunny Hills Estates.
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I guess one way to look at it is a vote for Biden isn't really a vote for Biden. It's a vote for whoever his VP is. She will inevitably do everything and take charge while they quietly wheel Joe off to Sunny Hills Estates.
Assume that's true - According to the DSA crowd, it doesn't matter. This is still somehow the same as Trump and a depressing proposition.
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Can we discuss the fact that you follow-up to most of my posts with an antagonisitic response frequently? I mean I get you're not good at debating and don't have any real positions that could be put into public policy, but this stalker activity is unprofessional and creepy.
Sure, what would you like to discuss about it?
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