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07-09-2020, 11:49 AM | #6611 (permalink) | |
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And this bull**** that they’re putting out that kids are actually harmed by missing school is outlandish.
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07-09-2020, 11:52 AM | #6612 (permalink) | ||
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And yes, I would and have said that all those things are fascist.
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07-09-2020, 12:45 PM | #6613 (permalink) | |
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The same faction behind the tearing down of Jefferson statues are behind the tearing down of Freddy Douglas, and I want to know who they are and what their real goal is, so that I can loudly oppose it. There's no reason to tear down a statue of a real American hero like FD.
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07-09-2020, 01:07 PM | #6614 (permalink) | |
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A definition of political ideology that applies to all those countries is not a useful one. |
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07-09-2020, 01:45 PM | #6615 (permalink) |
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His definition includes the majority of regimes throughout human history so yeah, I'd say it's not particularly useful.
Fascism usually refers to a specific movement most notably in early 20th century Europe. Using it as a vague catch all for authoritarianism in general or nationalism/racism in general is lazy and unhelpful. |
07-09-2020, 01:50 PM | #6616 (permalink) | ||
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But I'm willing to admit I'm wrong in how I use it in regards to the Soviet Union but not in regards to America. Edit: If there's something from Websters definition that you think should be added go ahead.
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07-09-2020, 01:58 PM | #6617 (permalink) | ||
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I'll bite though - why wouldn't you apply your definition to the Soviet Union? Would you agree that it was a dictatorship? If not, why not? Do you agree that it was a government based on classism (e.g. bourgeoisie/proletariat)? If not, why not? Last edited by SGR; 07-09-2020 at 02:08 PM. |
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07-09-2020, 02:12 PM | #6618 (permalink) | |
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So LF, going by your statements your definition of a 'dictatorship' also includes the United States? Once again it seems you are using terms too loosely.
I think this article is a decent basic explanation of what Fascism is. I'll quote some highlights. Quote:
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07-09-2020, 02:18 PM | #6619 (permalink) | ||
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That's not really true about the definition in WW2 either. The original Antifa considered democratic socialism and liberals to be fascist. Actually, they kind of considered anything that wasn't communism to be fascist.
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07-09-2020, 02:23 PM | #6620 (permalink) | ||
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Edit: I think I'm going to adopt his definition as the definition I use then. Seems more in tune with what I'm trying to say.
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