Political Discussions for "Adults"

SGR · 07-27-2020, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Hmn...Frank Herbert might have gotten my vote if he had lived and run for office. Futures-Past Editions: LOST INTERVIEW: FUTURISTIC MEDITATIONS FROM DUNE’S FRANK HERBERT Part II

Very interesting. I don't think I've read any of Frank Herbert's work but he's got a good point here. Term limits. Sign me up. Despite Tom Steyer being an uncharismatic goofball, he was right on that front.

I'd probably vote for H.L. Mencken if I had the chance.

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Originally Posted by H.L. Mencken

As democracy is perfected, the office of the president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
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The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.
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Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage.

**Frownland** · 07-27-2020, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

I think it's a fair question to ask people who voted in the Demoratic primary, and are considering not voting for Biden in the Fall:

You participated in the primary. It didn't go your way, and now you're going to take your football and go home.

Politics aren't sports, framing them as such is pretty telling.

I'm considering not voting for Biden but I still intend on voting so I'm still using my...football. Like elph I'm more open to it in the current landscape than I used to be but am still leaning green. It'll depend on what things are like in November. The reactionary anti-third party schtick became played out by 2016 (earlier, really), I'm surprised that you think that this is a point that the bad Democrat team players haven't heard before. You're better off selling Biden than gaslighting.

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So do you think Democracy is bull****?

Nah, voting is just an ineffective way to influence federal policy and the curated options we get at the end of the day cheapen how truly Demoratic our representative selection process is.

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or do you just dislike your fellow voters and want their decision overturned?

I am pretty not fond of Trump voters, but unfortunately I can't undo their votes without committing a felony so...

Lucem Ferre · 07-27-2020, 08:58 PM

If Trump gets elected again I'm blaming everybody that didn't vote for Bernie.

**Frownland** · 07-27-2020, 09:20 PM

Not that I don't disagree with some Democratic policies, but the issue with voting for Biden is that he takes votes from third parties. I would vote for him but unfortunately I know that the people who say that they support him are just whiny babies who don't actually vote, so if I vote for him and he doesn't win, how am I going to be able to tell my facebook friends that I guessed wrong on ElectionBowl 2020? My vote would basically be useless! I'm going to vote for someone else's choice because I am a Pragmatic Adult. Then when my candidate wins, it's like I voted twice because I feel so popular. This won't be an issue in future elections because reasons so just shut up and vote for my team.

SGR · 07-27-2020, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

If Trump gets elected again I'm blaming everybody that didn't vote for Bernie.

W.W.K.D.

(What Would Kanye Do?)

Lucem Ferre · 07-27-2020, 09:51 PM

I'm sorry, I'mma let you finish, but Bernie Sanders was one of the greatest candidates of all time. Allll time. *shrug*

WWWP · 07-27-2020, 10:59 PM

If Texas flips blue I will literally eat a dick

WWWP · 07-27-2020, 11:33 PM

Haha nice one

(Not sarcasm)

OccultHawk · 07-28-2020, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Also Texas is possibly in play this time around

and I want to be able to say "Love it or leave it" to all the conservatard Texans here

omg they will melt down, cry about all the Californians moving here, but there's nowhere else for these Hicks to go if we take Texas

Who the **** is “we”?

~~jwb~~ · 07-28-2020, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

Also Texas is possibly in play this time around

and I want to be able to say "Love it or leave it" to all the conservatard Texans here

omg they will melt down, cry about all the Californians moving here, but there's nowhere else for these Hicks to go if we take Texas

The fact that Biden is competitive in Texas right now and actually ahead in swing states is a testament to the extent to which a Biden vote is just an anti Trump vote. Biden needs to hide in his basement till the election like Trump whined about during that interview and let all the heat fall on Trump.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Not that I don't disagree with some Democratic policies, but the issue with voting for Biden is that he takes votes from third parties. I would vote for him but unfortunately I know that the people who say that they support him are just whiny babies who don't actually vote, so if I vote for him and he doesn't win, how am I going to be able to tell my facebook friends that I guessed wrong on ElectionBowl 2020? My vote would basically be useless! I'm going to vote for someone else's choice because I am a Pragmatic Adult. Then when my candidate wins, it's like I voted twice because I feel so popular. This won't be an issue in future elections because reasons so just shut up and vote for my team. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x