Political Discussions for "Adults"

OccultHawk · 05-31-2020, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

taking a job at all is cowardice

I often think of how my life is a series of weak compromise, just to be miserable anyway

It’s true.

The Batlord · 05-31-2020, 06:27 PM

So why don't you burn your workplace to the ground?

Lucem Ferre · 05-31-2020, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

And this is why communism and socialism will always fail.

I'm just gonna sit back and wait for the robots. I already know what it would take to solve these problems, and humans aren't capable of operating at that scale in an effective way.

Not wanting to be depended on \= to not wanting to do my part. We wouldn't need people to be overworked in an economic system that isn't based on overproducing for prophet.

OccultHawk · 05-31-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So why don't you burn your workplace to the ground?

https://crimethinc.com/2004/11/01/wh...curity-culture

**Frownland** · 05-31-2020, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

I already know what it would take to solve these problems, and humans aren't capable of operating at that scale in an effective way.

A lot of blood is on your hands for hoarding your wisdom dude.

The Batlord · 05-31-2020, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

https://crimethinc.com/2004/11/01/wh...curity-culture

So you're a coward just like the rest of us?

OccultHawk · 05-31-2020, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So you're a coward just like the rest of us?

Yes. Except I don’t know that the rest of you are.

I will say that when my mood cycles a certain way I will do and have done some

whatever

Anteater · 05-31-2020, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

A lot of blood is on your hands for hoarding your wisdom dude.

Send Elon Musk an email.

Anteater · 05-31-2020, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Not wanting to be depended on \= to not wanting to do my part. We wouldn't need people to be overworked in an economic system that isn't based on overproducing for prophet.

elph got my meaning pretty well. But here's the thing - leadership isn't really something anybody wants unless there's some kind of merit that accompanies it that's different than what other workers (who don't share that responsibility) have.

In any society that isn't capitalistic, anybody who actually wants to lead is basically a psychopath in the making who would be a threat to the system. It's a grab for social power and benefits that your neighbors, coworkers, etc. don't have.

One issue we have in society (in general) is a lot of people in leadership positions who don't really want to be leaders, but who are also incapable of being good leaders. And you can thank the Peter Principle for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

The Batlord · 05-31-2020, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I don't think there exists anyone cut out for leadership in actuality

that's the great irony

Democracy is self-justifying, but it's also necessary

Nah there definitely are. It's just that higher ups generally choose people who show that they want leadership because it's easy to give it to people who want to tell other people what to do. At military school I knew a surprising amount of students in leadership positions who just happened to be charismatic, wanted to see a good job done, and just naturally turned to other people to assign tasks, but somehow weren't dicks about it. There were plenty of dicks in leadership positions but non-dicks were not that rare.

The problem is that unlike Anteater says in capitalism the people who actually jockey for leadership positions, the dicks, tend to get noticed faster and tend to go higher.