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Old 04-17-2020, 04:23 PM   #5621 (permalink)
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No it's not.

In the trolley problem you are making the choice between taking one life or many, you're proposing murdering people on both sides of the track.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:29 PM   #5622 (permalink)
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And as much as I can relate it seems to be mostly motivated by Howard Hughes-esque germaphobia.
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Old 04-17-2020, 04:30 PM   #5623 (permalink)
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No it's not.

In the trolley problem you are making the choice between taking one life or many, you're proposing murdering people on both sides of the track.
It is absolutely an issue of one life Vs many.
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And as much as I can relate it seems to be mostly motivated by Howard Hughes-esque germaphobia.
Even if it is, it’s still a trolley problem.
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Even if it is, it’s still a trolley problem.
I mean if it is then it might actually not be.
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It is absolutely an issue of one life Vs many.
As in shoot five people to save one?
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I mean if it is then it might actually not be.
Regardless, the trolley problem will prove absolutely nothing about ethics or morality so, whatevs.
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As in shoot five people to save one?
He means shoot five people to save him.
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it just exists to as a way to refute objective morality
Right. Which is why this is not a trolley problem.

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He means shoot five people to save him.
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OK let’s so say we know for sure patient zero got it from eating a bat. If we can go back in time and say ‘hey don’t eat that bat please you’ll get a virus that will spread and kill many thousands and make many more very ill’ and he’s like ‘I enjoy bat meat’ and the government (not an individual vigilante) can only assure he won’t eat the bat by using lethal force - that’s a trolley problem.

If we now know that anybody is a potential vector it’s still a trolley problem. Trolley problems can have lots of scenarios and this is one of them. A person who chooses to interact with the public is potentially spreading the virus. That makes it a trolley problem.
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