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Frownland 08-17-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1865426)

It was not Nazis vs Antifa like you are trying to make it out to be.

Unless you're like, talking about the people who willingly took part in the violence and stuff.

Chula Vista 08-17-2017 02:32 PM

Frowny, look up Eristic. It's so you.

Chula Vista 08-17-2017 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1865430)
Unless you're like, talking about the people who willingly took part in the violence and stuff.

Already addressed this, but of course you ignored me.

Frownland 08-17-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1865431)
Frowny, look up Eristic. It's so you.

It's true, I absolutely love debate. It can be very informative and eye-opening if both sides are willing to participate like adults.

Frownland 08-17-2017 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1865433)
Already addressed this, but of course you ignored me.

I wasn't talking to you.

Anteater 08-17-2017 02:36 PM

Not everyone who was there protesting on the "alt-right" side was a Nazi or white supremacist. That's the truth, but it runs counter to the narrative the media are trying to spin.

And in the spirit of fairness, I'll also say that ANTIFA and BLM didn't make up the majority of the counter protestors either.

This situation is a good example of a case where a little nuance would have gone a long way. But as usual, the media are opportunistic and Trump's brazen language (and ill-thought out metaphors) only spurred them on.

Frownland 08-17-2017 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater (Post 1865436)
Not everyone who was there protesting on the "alt-right" side was a Nazi or white supremacist. That's the truth, but it runs counter to the narrative the media are trying to spin.

I haven't even Breitbart try to discredit that it was a white supremacist rally. Keep breaking that ground ant.

Chula Vista 08-17-2017 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1865434)
It's true, I absolutely love debate. It can be very informative and eye-opening if both sides are willing to participate like adults.

But no-one's eyes ever get opened much here. Everyone is pretty dug in so it ends up coming off more like just arguing for aguments sake.

Anteater 08-17-2017 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1865437)
I haven't even Breitbart try to discredit that it was a white supremacist rally. Keep breaking that ground ant.

Did you see weapons in the hands of every single person protesting the Robert E. Lee statue's takedown? I didn't see that to be the case, least in all the vids I've seen. We should respect the rights of people who want to protest (for whatever reason they want to protest) as long as its done peacefully. The problem is when people resort to violence, which is where they crossed the line.

Again, a little nuance goes a long way here. I've followed the story extensively and just pointing out inconsistencies.

Frownland 08-17-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1865438)
But no-one's eyes ever get opened much here. Everyone is pretty dug in so it ends up coming off more like just arguing for aguments sake.

I can see why you feel that way given how you approach debate. I have had 5 star debates with DWV, grindy, Janzsoon, and tore (who might be before your time) to name a few where I came out of the discussion with a different viewpoint. It's actually why this thread was made in the first place, because people who weren't approaching debate constructively were dominating the conversation and DWV wanted to actually learn something instead of read boring personal insult based ****storms.


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