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Old 04-14-2020, 10:37 AM   #5551 (permalink)
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And WE’RE under reporting deaths.
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I wonder how many unaccounted for homeless people this has killed under the radar.
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Ignoring the period of time where China pretended like it wasn't a real thing that ultimately lead to it becoming a global pandemic. Yeah, once they actually took it seriously they did better than we are doing now.
Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.
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Old 04-14-2020, 10:41 AM   #5553 (permalink)
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Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.
Probably.

People on facebook are spreading conspiracy theories that hospitals are reporting every death as a covid-19 death.

Or that 99% survival rate means it's not a big deal which is also the survival rate for the Columbine massacre.
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Imagine if it had originated in America. We probably wouldn’t have even identified the virus.
We most likely would have stifled reporting of that virus when it did get discovered to avoid public panic so that we could try to solve it behind the scenes, only to publicly come to terms with the situation once the severity has made itself clear.

Not sure where I got that precedent from, it just came to me I guess.
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Old 04-14-2020, 10:43 AM   #5555 (permalink)
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****loads. NYC has been picking up an additional 200 dead bodies a week above average. Some of those are also people who just decided to risk dying at home alone rather than rack up medical death. I’m pretty sure Americans have more medical debt than any other country on earth. Is that more reverse American exceptionalism intellectual equivalent to nationalism or is it just ****ing true?
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Taiwan is either supreme champions of this virus or also f*cking liars.
They took SARS very seriously and learned from it. They also actually educate their citizens.
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Old 04-14-2020, 10:49 AM   #5557 (permalink)
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****loads. NYC has been picking up an additional 200 dead bodies a week above average. Some of those are also people who just decided to risk dying at home alone rather than rack up medical death. I’m pretty sure Americans have more medical debt than any other country on earth. Is that more reverse American exceptionalism intellectual equivalent to nationalism or is it just ****ing true?
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They took SARS very seriously and learned from it. They also actually educate their citizens.
Dude. Fighting Anteater's fire with fire just leaves us with two pairs of soggy boots.
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Dude, every country responded badly. Every. Single. One. South Korea's own CDC admitted that every citizen is going to get it. People are getting out of the hospitals and then testing positive again for it.

From America to Denmark, we might as well just hope nitric oxide gas or something turns out to be a short term answer. Otherwise everyone's ****ed. Thanks China!
The stats Google has for SK shows they peaked a long time ago and are currently at ~10,000 cases and 222 deaths. That doesn't seem bad at all to me.

Italy and Spain have higher death rates than the US by a wide margin if you divide by the population or even by the number of confirmed cases. They definitely are being accused of bungling the response but they also had aging populations hit hard by the virus.
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The idea that deaths can happen under the radar is still different from actively manipulating known statistics, which is what people are accusing China of doing. And by a wide margin. Like 2 million+ cases instead of the reported 80,000. But I don't know how true these accusations are. China just lifted the lockdown in Wuhan so perhaps time will tell.
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Old 04-14-2020, 11:11 AM   #5559 (permalink)
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The idea that deaths can happen under the radar is still different from actively manipulating known statistics
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Honestly I think the spotlight COVID has placed Trump under is good for him.

Instead of focusing on his repeated, blatant criminality they can focus instead on his incompetence.
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