Political Discussions for "Adults"

Anteater · 04-01-2020, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

I'm not saying that he missed the boat because frankly, you're right, it would have been seen as a rash decision at that point.

My post was really just to highlight the fact that Mitch claims he was too preoccupied with the impeachment process to give this thing focused attention and that's just strictly not true. All Trump cared about during the months where we should have been preparing was his self image, his re-election, and his short game. He's been gallivanting on Twitter ever since shut downs and people dying started stating that he "knew all along" and couldn't do anything with the witch hunt happening.

If Trump wasn't ALWAYS full of sh*t and actually took responsibility for his actions, I would give the man more of a break because this sh*t was hard to contain and almost impossible to avoid but he literally said, with his mouth, that he "doesn't take responsibility". It's that kind of 10 year old "it wasn't me" attitude that makes me want to vomit because he's supposed to be leading us right now and he only cares about his own ego and his enemies.

He's a sh*t leader and you know it. I'm not talking politics anymore. It's plain as day to see he's a TERRIBLE leader.

I think we can both agree that Mitch McConnell is more of a problem than Trump's communication tendencies. I've been fine generally with Trump's actions since late January to try to mitigate the problems (regardless of what he says: he's adversarial by nature and most of it is just noise).

Why would Trump's attitude make you want to vomit when China put us into this situation? It isn't Trump's fault anymore than it's Trudeau's fault that there are dead Canadians. The POTUS isn't a god regardless of who holds the office. Trump was criticized for advocating potential treatments that showed promise. He gets slammed when he says optimistic things and gets slammed when he says something pessimistic. There's no way for him to win in this particular kind of situation.

OccultHawk · 04-01-2020, 03:11 PM

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China put us into this situation

That’s complete crap. WW3 starting bull****, too.

OccultHawk · 04-01-2020, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

ye blaming China is dumb af

the US also imprisons whistleblowers btw

you think they would have let Edward Snowdon literally ever leave prison

Plus even if you’re not imprisoned you still lose your job your hireability your income and will be forever shackled by the chains of poverty.

OccultHawk · 04-01-2020, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

the US is barely a democracy

even our flimsy representative republic doesn't pass the low low bar of electing the people that get the most votes

it's weird to blame something we don't have

**** the most votes.

OccultHawk · 04-01-2020, 04:04 PM

You’re problem is you think democracy is synonymous with freedom or even just good.

Of course capitalism and freedom are an impossible tandem.

**Exo** · 04-01-2020, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Why would Trump's attitude make you want to vomit when China put us into this situation?

Because

I

Don't

Live

In

C hina

I'm not blaming Trump for deaths. Deaths happen. That'd be as fair as blaming Trump for car accidents because they happen on American soil on government infrastructure. That's stupid. I'm criticizing his abhorrent leadership during one of the most stressful times our country has seen outside wartime in its history. Regardless of whether you blame China or bats or whoever, they aren't in charge of our country, Donald Trump is, and while I'm not looking to him and only him to rectify this situation, his constant finger pointing, bitching, refusal to take responsibility for anything, snarkiness in dealing with pleading governors, and general disregard for American life has me so disgusted with him as our leader.

It's like if you were a soldier in the war and your pinned down in a house with sniper and machine gun fire outside. You're surrounded. Your CO didn't PUT you in this mess. He didn't START the war. Yet, here you are in the house getting rained on by bullets, and you're looking to your CO for direction and the motherf*cker is just sitting there pouting complaining about how so and so screwed him and how unfair his superiors were being on the radio five minutes ago and how when we get back there will be hell to pay because...MOTHERF*CKER SHUT THE F*CK UP AND GET US OUT OF THIS HOUSE ALIVE YOU TWAT.

Anteater · 04-01-2020, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

ye blaming China is dumb af

They knew it was killing people and that it could jump from person to person before anyone else.

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Originally Posted by Exo

Because

I

Don't

Live

In

C hina

I'm not blaming Trump for deaths. Deaths happen. That'd be as fair as blaming Trump for car accidents because they happen on American soil on government infrastructure. That's stupid. I'm criticizing his abhorrent leadership during one of the most stressful times our country has seen outside wartime in its history. Regardless of whether you blame China or bats or whoever, they aren't in charge of our country, Donald Trump is, and while I'm not looking to him and only him to rectify this situation, his constant finger pointing, bitching, refusal to take responsibility for anything, snarkiness in dealing with pleading governors, and general disregard for American life has me so disgusted with him as our leader.

It's like if you were a soldier in the war and your pinned down in a house with sniper and machine gun fire outside. You're surrounded. Your CO didn't PUT you in this mess. He didn't START the war. Yet, here you are in the house getting rained on by bullets, and you're looking to your CO for direction and the motherf*cker is just sitting there pouting complaining about how so and so screwed him and how unfair his superiors were being on the radio five minutes ago and how when we get back there will be hell to pay because...MOTHERF*CKER SHUT THE F*CK UP AND GET US OUT OF THIS HOUSE ALIVE YOU TWAT.

Well the good news is that Trump is definitely in an age range where the coronavirus would wipe him out. The bad news is you'll get Pence for 5 years.

OccultHawk · 04-01-2020, 05:14 PM

I know we’re better off working with China than fighting with them if we want to live.

Mindy · 04-01-2020, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I know we’re better off working with China than fighting with them if we want to live.

The Batlord · 04-01-2020, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo

Regardless of whether you blame China or bats or whoever

What did I do?

04-01-2020, 04:04 PM	#5325 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	You’re problem is you think democracy is synonymous with freedom or even just good. Of course capitalism and freedom are an impossible tandem. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html

04-01-2020, 05:14 PM	#5328 (permalink)
OccultHawk one-balled nipple jockey Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Dirty Souf Biatch Posts: 22,006	I know we’re better off working with China than fighting with them if we want to live. __________________ 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 Member of the Year & Journal of the Year Champion Behold the Writing of THE LEGEND: https://www.musicbanter.com/members-...p-lighter.html