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Old 04-17-2020, 07:10 PM   #5171 (permalink)
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The defining attribute of the trolley problem is that it's a binary choice. Real life is almost entirely not binary choices.
Real life boils down to only binary choices. You either do something or you don’t.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:11 PM   #5172 (permalink)
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That's the same thing Chula said about free will.

You're both wrong.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:14 PM   #5173 (permalink)
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I understand there’s no free will. Describing it as “choices” is only because we have limitations within our language. Indeed, you either do something or you don’t. That’s indisputable. And entirely binary.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:17 PM   #5174 (permalink)
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Ya'll should go to San Francisco and ride a trolley together, sort this problem out.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:18 PM   #5175 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:19 PM   #5176 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:20 PM   #5177 (permalink)
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Real life boils down to only binary choices. You either do something or you don’t.
Reducing reality to binary choices is what we do for toddlers to make complex ambiguous subjects more approachable. Let us know when you get past that stage of philosophy.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:21 PM   #5178 (permalink)
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Seriously, even elph has a better grasp on these concepts
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:22 PM   #5179 (permalink)
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Real life boils down to only binary choices. You either do something or you don’t.
What? You're a moron.

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I understand there’s no free will. Describing it as “choices” is only because we have limitations within our language. Indeed, you either do something or you don’t. That’s indisputable. And entirely binary.
Or you do thing A. Or you do thing B. Or you do thing C. Or you do thing D. Or you do thing E. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Cause that's what a near infinitely complex causality is. Such complexity that it almost feels like free will because you can't imagine an actual infinite universe of true free will but imagine that near infinite complexity is actual infinite complexity. Stop embarrassing me as a proponent of a deterministic universe.
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Old 04-17-2020, 07:32 PM   #5180 (permalink)
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Sheesh. Even when I argue binary choices in the sense that you can either deal with X problem or solve X problem, I wouldn't boil it down to the point of saying it's a binary situation.
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