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WWWP 04-17-2020 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2113203)
It is absolutely an issue of one life Vs many.

As in shoot five people to save one?

WWWP 04-17-2020 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2113205)
I mean if it is then it might actually not be.

Regardless, the trolley problem will prove absolutely nothing about ethics or morality so, whatevs.

The Batlord 04-17-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2113206)
As in shoot five people to save one?

He means shoot five people to save him.

WWWP 04-17-2020 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2113208)
it just exists to as a way to refute objective morality

Right. Which is why this is not a trolley problem.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2113209)
He means shoot five people to save him.

Lol true

OccultHawk 04-17-2020 03:44 PM

OK let’s so say we know for sure patient zero got it from eating a bat. If we can go back in time and say ‘hey don’t eat that bat please you’ll get a virus that will spread and kill many thousands and make many more very ill’ and he’s like ‘I enjoy bat meat’ and the government (not an individual vigilante) can only assure he won’t eat the bat by using lethal force - that’s a trolley problem.

If we now know that anybody is a potential vector it’s still a trolley problem. Trolley problems can have lots of scenarios and this is one of them. A person who chooses to interact with the public is potentially spreading the virus. That makes it a trolley problem.

OccultHawk 04-17-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2113209)
He means shoot five people to save him.

If their action can potentially lead to my death then that’s a trolley problem.

Keeping Burger King open is a trolley problem.

The Batlord 04-17-2020 03:50 PM

I mean if the police started shooting people I imagine that would spark an actual civil war that would among other things make the pandemic worse.

Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 03:56 PM

A) From what I read they think a bat transmitted it to a different animal that they ate, they just know for sure it derives from bats.

B) You don't need to take the most extreme measure to prevent people from socializing you just like it because you love being overly dramatic.

C) It's still not a trolley problem because they MIGHT infect people with a disease that MIGHT kill people. The people not getting shot are going to be the people who were probably safe from the disease to begin with.

D)z Nuts

E) **** em? This is a self induced destruction caused by the ignorance of American culture and would honestly be sweet deserved justice if our stupidity caused a huge chunk of our population to die. Or as my friend's little sister said when she saw Florida opened their beaches back up, "This is natural selection."

OccultHawk 04-17-2020 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2113213)
I mean if the police started shooting people I imagine that would spark an actual civil war that would among other things make the pandemic worse.

Thats a fine response. Still a trolley problem. You might be right. However, the police have been shooting people for being black for decades and being black isn’t even contagious and that hasn’t caused a civil war. Kent State didn’t cause a civil war. But it COULD cause a civil war so that deserves to be considered when solving this trolley problem. Another outcome could be people stay in self-quarentine. Probably quite likely even.

Lucem Ferre 04-17-2020 04:00 PM

How about making people pay a fine? Or putting them in jail?

Why do you always jump to the most violent and extreme reaction for everything?


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